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		<description>Welcome to That Makes Total Sense! A podcast about exploring God’s generosity and justice. I’m Alexis Busetti - a Christian aiming to ask good questions and encourage you to do the same.

Every one of us is wired by God to live out generosity and justice, but sometimes the how eludes us. That Makes Total Sense! is a way for us to get together, posture ourselves as learners, and challenge one other to practice generosity and justice in a tangible way everyday.</description>
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		<itunes:summary>Welcome to That Makes Total Sense! A podcast about exploring God’s generosity and justice. I’m Alexis Busetti - a Christian aiming to ask good questions and encourage you to do the same.

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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with&#160;Aimee Byrd&#160;was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book,&#160;Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what has happened to &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-352-aimee-byrd-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 352 &#8211; Aimee Byrd (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 315 &#8211; Amar Peterman</title>
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	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how w]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[Have you ever heard a phrase that sticks with you? So much so, that you find yourself turning it over again and again in your mind, discovering its relevance to new situations in your life? Sometimes those brief sentences can have massive impact on how we think and interact with the world. Well, from my &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-315-amar-peterman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 315 &#8211; Amar Peterman</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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	<title>Episode 350 &#8211; Jared Stacy</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 12:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-350-jared-stacy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 350 &#8211; Jared Stacy</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are conn]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[Author and scholar Jared Stacy joins me for this episode to talk about conspiracism and evangelicalism in the United States. Many of us have probably noticed that these two seem to walk hand in hand, but have we stopped to ask ourselves how they are connected and in what ways that connection might be true &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-350-jared-stacy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 350 &#8211; Jared Stacy</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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	<title>Episode 349 &#8211; Kelly Flanagan</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 23:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Third time&#8217;s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we&#8217;re so tempted to close it off. This &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-349-kelly-flanagan/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 349 &#8211; Kelly Flanagan</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Third time&#8217;s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, ]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[Third time&#8217;s a charm with psychologist, Dr. Kelly Flanagan! (Though the first two recordings with Kelly were amazing as well!) His newest book, The Road Less Triggered, is phenomenal. We talked a lot about how to have the posture of an open heart, especially at moments when we&#8217;re so tempted to close it off. This &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-349-kelly-flanagan/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 349 &#8211; Kelly Flanagan</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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	<title>Episode 348 &#8211; L. Daniel Hawk</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 11:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you&#8217;d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation&#8217;s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you&#8217;ll know &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-348-l-daniel-hawk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 348 &#8211; L. Daniel Hawk</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you&#8217;d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation&#8217;s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Nat]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[Growing up in Oklahoma (read 12 years of public school history classes), you&#8217;d think I would have taken in droves of information about our nation&#8217;s history with Indigenous peoples. After all, Oklahoma has one of the highest populations of Native Americans in the U.S. and, if you understand some of the basic history, you&#8217;ll know &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-348-l-daniel-hawk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 348 &#8211; L. Daniel Hawk</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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	<title>Episode 347 &#8211; Amy Peeler (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2026 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we&#8217;d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-347-amy-peeler-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 347 &#8211; Amy Peeler (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we&#8217;d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and th]]></itunes:subtitle>
	<content:encoded><![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we&#8217;d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-347-amy-peeler-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 347 &#8211; Amy Peeler (re-release!)</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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	<itunes:summary><![CDATA[Happy Easter! I hope you had a wonderful holiday weekend with you and yours. Since we took some time to rest and celebrate (new episode coming next week!), we thought we&#8217;d share this favorite again. Enjoy! To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, &#8230; Continue reading Episode 347 &#8211; Amy Peeler (re-release!)]]></itunes:summary>
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	<title>Episode 346 &#8211; Sara Billups</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 00:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us &#8211; anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, and how they connect &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-346-sara-billups/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 346 &#8211; Sara Billups</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[What a joy it is to welcome Sara Billups back to the podcast! We talked about a subject that is or has been near to each of us &#8211; anxiety. Sara has written a book that brings in her experiences with anxiety, as well as many of those of her family, a]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Kristen Lee&#8216;s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! &#8211; which we totally didn&#8217;t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through her text, We Mend with Gold. She has written the book she wishes &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-345-kristen-lee/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 345 &#8211; Kristen Lee</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Kristen Lee&#8216;s voice is such a gift! She an incredibly gifted author (and physician! &#8211; which we totally didn&#8217;t even touch on in this conversation), and I am so thrilled she has chosen to bring her experiences and research to us through h]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 344 &#8211; Laura Baghdassarian Murray</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that&#8217;s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (that happens often when I talk to a spiritual director!). In this episode we &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-344-laura-baghdassarian-murray/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 344 &#8211; Laura Baghdassarian Murray</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Talking with Laura Baghdassarian Murray was truly a delight! Even though the subject of this episode is hospitality, which is a topic that&#8217;s super familiar to me, our conversation took us through some territory that was a bit unexpected for me (tha]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 343 &#8211; Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This was one of my absolute favorite conversations! I am so thrilled to be able to share it &#8211; again! Dr. Amy-Jill Levine&#160;is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is&#160;Jesus &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-373-amy-jill-levine-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 343 &#8211; Amy-Jill Levine (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This was one of my absolute favorite conversations! I am so thrilled to be able to share it &#8211; again! Dr. Amy-Jill Levine&#160;is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extens]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 342 &#8211; Jenn Suen Chen</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 23:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Jenn Suen Chen&#8216;s story is so very different from mine and also holds many similarities. Her new book, Dim Sum and Faith, is one to slow down with, letting the words and ideas simmer like a wonderfully rich broth (one that can also bring some healing with its warmth). She shares about her experiences as &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-342-jenn-suen-chen/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 342 &#8211; Jenn Suen Chen</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Jenn Suen Chen&#8216;s story is so very different from mine and also holds many similarities. Her new book, Dim Sum and Faith, is one to slow down with, letting the words and ideas simmer like a wonderfully rich broth (one that can also bring some healin]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 341 &#8211; Tatum Tricarico</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2026 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Tatum Tricarico&#8216;s book, Blessed is the Body, is an amazing devotional! I read it almost every morning (sipping my coffee with my beagle curled up beside me) preparing for this interview. Not only did I learn a ton, but I also connected with God in super meaningful and surprising ways. In this conversation, we talk &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-341-tatum-tricarico/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 341 &#8211; Tatum Tricarico</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Tatum Tricarico&#8216;s book, Blessed is the Body, is an amazing devotional! I read it almost every morning (sipping my coffee with my beagle curled up beside me) preparing for this interview. Not only did I learn a ton, but I also connected with God in ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 340 &#8211; Chris Hoklotubbe &#038; Danny Zacharias</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 22:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read &#8211; and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris&#8217;s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Canada (and what we can learn from the process of our neighbors to the north), &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-340-chris-hoklotubbe-danny-zacharias/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 340 &#8211; Chris Hoklotubbe &#38; Danny Zacharias</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Oh my goodness! Chris and Danny were such a joy to read &#8211; and even more so to speak with! We covered super important topics like Chris&#8217;s drum circle debacle (supposedly available online somewhere), the Truth and Reconciliation Committee in Ca]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 339 &#8211; Christine Jeske</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 02:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Sitting down with author and anthropology professor Christine Jeske was a joy! We talked about her newest book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, which is all about why white Christians (the small number of them who do) participate in racial justice work and how they stay committed. For this work, Christine spent hours and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-339-christine-jeske/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 339 &#8211; Christine Jeske</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Sitting down with author and anthropology professor Christine Jeske was a joy! We talked about her newest book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, which is all about why white Christians (the small number of them who do) participate in racial justice work]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 338 &#8211; Terence Lester</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 00:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so thrilled to welcome *back* to the podcast, Dr. Terence Lester! (In case you missed his other appearances, they&#8217;re here, here, and here &#8211; with his daughter, and co-author, Zion!) During this conversation, we discuss race-based educational injustices in the U.S., along with Terence&#8217;s own story of experiencing the educational system as a &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-338-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 338 &#8211; Terence Lester</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so thrilled to welcome *back* to the podcast, Dr. Terence Lester! (In case you missed his other appearances, they&#8217;re here, here, and here &#8211; with his daughter, and co-author, Zion!) During this conversation, we discuss race-based educatio]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 337 &#8211; Chanté Griffin</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[For Christians, the topic of loving our neighbors is a familiar one. Many times, at least for me, the phrase is *so* familiar that it sometimes becomes difficult to effectively pause, reflect, and investigate what it actually requires from us in real life. Chanté Griffin brings her unique perspective to this vibrant and ongoing conversation, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-337-chante-griffin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 337 &#8211; Chanté Griffin</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[For Christians, the topic of loving our neighbors is a familiar one. Many times, at least for me, the phrase is *so* familiar that it sometimes becomes difficult to effectively pause, reflect, and investigate what it actually requires from us in real lif]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 336 &#8211; Malcolm Foley (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2026 23:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s Pick! For MLK Jr. Day, I asked my husband and producer, Seth, to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and without hesitation, he said, &#8220;What about Malcolm&#8217;s most recent one?!&#8221; Done and done! Here ya go! That Makes ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 335 &#8211; Dorothy Greco</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am truly grateful for the work of Dorothy Greco. Her most recent book, For the Love of Women tackles several areas where misogyny has, and continues to have, great impacts. Trained and having worked as both a journalist and a pastor, she brings a unique perspective to patriarchy and misogyny and how our whole &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-335-dorothy-greco/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 335 &#8211; Dorothy Greco</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am truly grateful for the work of Dorothy Greco. Her most recent book, For the Love of Women tackles several areas where misogyny has, and continues to have, great impacts. Trained and having worked as both a journalist and a pastor, she brings a uniqu]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 334 &#8211; Kat Armas</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-334-kat-armas/</link>
	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2026 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am embarrassed to admit how recently I started to realize the effects of empire on my life. It probably wasn&#8217;t until I entered seminary that vocabulary like empire or colonialism entered my everyday consciousness, and even when it did, reckoning with it is something that still evades me most days. It&#8217;s difficult to see &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-334-kat-armas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 334 &#8211; Kat Armas</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am embarrassed to admit how recently I started to realize the effects of empire on my life. It probably wasn&#8217;t until I entered seminary that vocabulary like empire or colonialism entered my everyday consciousness, and even when it did, reckoning ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 333 &#8211; Zach Lambert (re-play!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2025 01:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s pick! We&#8217;re all still recovering from holiday fun this week, so I asked my sweet husband and producer to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and he picked this favorite with Zach Lambert. Enjoy! And happy week between Christmas and New Year&#8217;s! This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don’t exactly claim the label, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-333-zach-lambert-9-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 333 &#8211; Zach Lambert (re-play!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s pick! We&#8217;re all still recovering from holiday fun this week, so I asked my sweet husband and producer to choose an episode he wanted to re-release and he picked this favorite with Zach Lambert. Enjoy! And happy week between Christm]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 332 &#8211; The Disruptive Birth</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 01:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The birth of Jesus was, and is, disruptive to our lives. Though, with all the familiarity surrounding Christmas, sometimes it&#8217;s hard to remember how true that is. Listen along for a short, Christmas week reflection from That Makes Total Sense! host, Alexis Busetti, as she discusses how the Incarnation was and should continue to be &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-332-the-disruptive-birth/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 332 &#8211; The Disruptive Birth</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The birth of Jesus was, and is, disruptive to our lives. Though, with all the familiarity surrounding Christmas, sometimes it&#8217;s hard to remember how true that is. Listen along for a short, Christmas week reflection from That Makes Total Sense! host]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 331 &#8211; Scott Erickson (re-play!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2025 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-331-scott-erickson-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 331 &#8211; Scott Erickson (re-play!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book – the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 330 &#8211; Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2025 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long (including in our recent conversation on Jubilee)! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-330-kelley-nikondeha-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 330 &#8211; Kelley Nikondeha (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha‘s words all year long (including in our recent conversation on Jubilee)! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of som]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 329 &#8211; Collin Cornell</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2025 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[My friend, Collin Cornell, is back! And, I have been *waiting* for this conversation (okay, in some ways, I&#8217;ve been waiting, and in some ways, it&#8217;s been ongoing). Collin has finished his newest book, God Draws Near, and it is a game-changer; I&#8217;m so thrilled he&#8217;s here to talk with me about it! This incredibly &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-329-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 329 &#8211; Collin Cornell</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[My friend, Collin Cornell, is back! And, I have been *waiting* for this conversation (okay, in some ways, I&#8217;ve been waiting, and in some ways, it&#8217;s been ongoing). Collin has finished his newest book, God Draws Near, and it is a game-changer; ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 328 &#8211; Lisa Colón DeLay</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2025 13:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Lisa Colón DeLay and I had so much fun talking all about the desert elders! (I admit, there was a time when that sentence wouldn&#8217;t have made sense to me, but today, I am all about learning more from our fore parents in the faith.) Even though our world and our lives look very different, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-328-lisa-colon-delay/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 328 &#8211; Lisa Colón DeLay</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Lisa Colón DeLay and I had so much fun talking all about the desert elders! (I admit, there was a time when that sentence wouldn&#8217;t have made sense to me, but today, I am all about learning more from our fore parents in the faith.) Even though our w]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 327 &#8211; Amy Peeler</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 12:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this episode, we explore God as Father, but not gendered, Mary, the mother &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-327-amy-peeler/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 327 &#8211; Amy Peeler</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[To say I enjoyed this conversation *and the book it was centered on* is an understatement! Dr. Amy Peeler, professor, author, and pastor, shares insight from her years of research culminating in her incredible book, Women and the Gender of God. In this e]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 326 &#8211; Claude Atcho</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2025 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[As I type this, it almost feels like fall in the hill country of Texas (and I hear it&#8217;s gonna stay that way for about 48 hours, lol!). The cooler weather and the wind, as temporary as they may be, remind me of seasonal changes, and it makes me glad. The chill in the air &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-326-claude-atcho/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 326 &#8211; Claude Atcho</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[As I type this, it almost feels like fall in the hill country of Texas (and I hear it&#8217;s gonna stay that way for about 48 hours, lol!). The cooler weather and the wind, as temporary as they may be, remind me of seasonal changes, and it makes me glad]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 325 &#8211; David Swanson (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2025 14:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is&#160;back&#160;to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s&#160;Plundered&#160;is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what living in ways more &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-325-david-swanson-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 325 &#8211; David Swanson (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is&#160;back&#160;to talk about his new book! David Swanson’s&#160;Plundered&#160;is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 324 &#8211; Kelley Nikondeha</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-324-kelley-nikondeha/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2025 22:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The topic of jubilee is one that sometimes has me feeling a bit&#8230;skeptical. It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t like the concept, I do. It&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s a tough one to talk about it in a way that seems faithful to the biblical texts and practical for real life. Enter Kelley Nikondeha! She is a &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-324-kelley-nikondeha/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 324 &#8211; Kelley Nikondeha</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The topic of jubilee is one that sometimes has me feeling a bit&#8230;skeptical. It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t like the concept, I do. It&#8217;s just that it&#8217;s a tough one to talk about it in a way that seems faithful to the biblical texts and]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 323 &#8211; Charon Hribar</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-323-charon-hribar/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2025 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Every time I catch a news headline with something tragic happening in the world, or close to home, I have a sense of grief, many times accompanied by a sense of helplessness. What can I do? is the question that haunts me. I&#8217;m not a community organizer or a formal advocate and even in the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-323-charon-hribar/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 323 &#8211; Charon Hribar</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Every time I catch a news headline with something tragic happening in the world, or close to home, I have a sense of grief, many times accompanied by a sense of helplessness. What can I do? is the question that haunts me. I&#8217;m not a community organi]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 322 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-322-ivp-made-for-pax-series-matthew-soerens/</link>
	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 01:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[When I think of individuals and organizations who have their work cut out for them, always, but especially with our current times, I think of Matthew Soerens and World Relief. For those who may not be familiar, World Relief is a Christian humanitarian organization who serves people who are in crisis all over the world, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-322-ivp-made-for-pax-series-matthew-soerens/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 322 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Matthew Soerens</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[When I think of individuals and organizations who have their work cut out for them, always, but especially with our current times, I think of Matthew Soerens and World Relief. For those who may not be familiar, World Relief is a Christian humanitarian or]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 321 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-321-ivp-made-for-pax-series-jenai-auman/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 22:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Chats with Jenai always result in wisdom for me, so I am grateful for our conversations! (This one is no exception!) Jenai is an author and of an amazing book called Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized and is a cohort leader at Made for Pax. (Our first &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-321-ivp-made-for-pax-series-jenai-auman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 321 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Jenai Auman</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Chats with Jenai always result in wisdom for me, so I am grateful for our conversations! (This one is no exception!) Jenai is an author and of an amazing book called Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized a]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 320 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-320-ivp-made-for-pax-series-bianca-hughes/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2025 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[For many Christians who have struggled with mental health challenges, either personally or accompanying loved ones, the church has often been a place of conflicting messages. Do we just need Jesus or can therapy help? Are we allowed to talk to God in that way or about those things? Am I weak or sinful? Questions &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-320-ivp-made-for-pax-series-bianca-hughes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 320 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Bianca Hughes</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[For many Christians who have struggled with mental health challenges, either personally or accompanying loved ones, the church has often been a place of conflicting messages. Do we just need Jesus or can therapy help? Are we allowed to talk to God in tha]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 319 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-319-ivp-made-for-pax-series-kristel-acevedo/</link>
	<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 10:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Oh my goodness! I had a great time talking with Kristel Acevedo! We continue our series on conversations centered around the Made for Pax / InterVarsity Press bible studies with this one on Kristel’s contribution Liberated at the Cross: Peace and Reconciliation in God’s Kingdom, available in English and Spanish. We talked about cruciformity, peace, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-319-ivp-made-for-pax-series-kristel-acevedo/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 319 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Kristel Acevedo</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Oh my goodness! I had a great time talking with Kristel Acevedo! We continue our series on conversations centered around the Made for Pax / InterVarsity Press bible studies with this one on Kristel’s contribution Liberated at the Cross: Peace and Reconci]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 318 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-318-ivp-made-for-pax-series-drew-jackson/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2025 21:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Drew Jackson, it is a complete joy for me! And, as you may have guessed from that opening statement, Drew is no stranger to the podcast (I highly encourage you to catch our other conversations about his books of poetry on the coming of Christ and the Gospel &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-318-ivp-made-for-pax-series-drew-jackson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 318 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Drew Jackson</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Drew Jackson, it is a complete joy for me! And, as you may have guessed from that opening statement, Drew is no stranger to the podcast (I highly encourage you to catch our other conversations about his books of poetry on the ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 317 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun &#038; Alexis Busetti</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2025 02:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[When I say this conversation was fun and meaningful, that is truly an understatement! Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, co-author of Migration: Experiencing God’s Care for Immigrants joined me for this episode and we shared from our hearts what our hopes are for the study and how working on it impacted us. Each of us come from families &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-317-ivp-made-for-pax-series-dorcas-cheng-tozun-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 317 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun &#38; Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[When I say this conversation was fun and meaningful, that is truly an understatement! Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, co-author of Migration: Experiencing God’s Care for Immigrants joined me for this episode and we shared from our hearts what our hopes are for the s]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 316 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2025 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[It was so great to have Dorcas Cheng-Tozun back on the podcast! For this series, Dorcas will join me twice &#8211; once as author of Mental Health: Experiencing God’s Care for Our Mind, Body, and Spirit &#8211; A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study and another time as co-author of the study we worked on together on &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-316-dorcas-cheng-tozun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 316 &#8211; IVP / Made for Pax Series: Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It was so great to have Dorcas Cheng-Tozun back on the podcast! For this series, Dorcas will join me twice &#8211; once as author of Mental Health: Experiencing God’s Care for Our Mind, Body, and Spirit &#8211; A 6-Week Interactive Bible Study and anothe]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 315 &#8211; IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so excited to kick off this special series of the podcast with Tiffany Bluhm, executive director of an amazing organization called Made for Pax! She’s been on the podcast before and it was an incredible conversation. This time, we are setting up what will be an eight-part series where we will discuss each &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-315-ivp-made-for-pax-series-tiffany-bluhm/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 315 &#8211; IVP/Made for Pax Series: Tiffany Bluhm</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so excited to kick off this special series of the podcast with Tiffany Bluhm, executive director of an amazing organization called Made for Pax! She’s been on the podcast before and it was an incredible conversation. This time, we are setting up wha]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 314 &#8211; Zach Lambert</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2025 15:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don&#8217;t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don&#8217;t say that only because I&#8217;m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of presenting themes from the Bible in new and helpful ways &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-314-zach-lambert/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 314 &#8211; Zach Lambert</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation with fellow(?) Texan (I don&#8217;t exactly claim the label, but my guest has lived here all his life), Zach Lambert was super fun! And I don&#8217;t say that only because I&#8217;m a theology nerd, I say that because Zach has a way of ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 313 &#8211; Sheila Wise Rowe &#038; Nicholas Rowe</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2025 19:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[So many of us would count ourselves as leaders in one area of our lives or another. Many of us would also count ourselves among those who have experienced some kind of trauma, whether it was early in our lives or later. And, as you would suspect, those groups have significant overlap. That&#8217;s where Sheila &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-313-sheila-wise-rowe-nicholas-rowe/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 313 &#8211; Sheila Wise Rowe &#38; Nicholas Rowe</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[So many of us would count ourselves as leaders in one area of our lives or another. Many of us would also count ourselves among those who have experienced some kind of trauma, whether it was early in our lives or later. And, as you would suspect, those g]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 312 &#8211; David Toole</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2025 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Content warning: This episode includes discussions of graphic violence and genocide. This interview is a unique one for the podcast. Professor and author, David Toole, has written a book on the life of his friend, Maggy Barankitse, who is an advocate, currently living in exile. Maggy is a Burundian survivor of one of the genocides &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-312-david-toole/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 312 &#8211; David Toole</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Content warning: This episode includes discussions of graphic violence and genocide. This interview is a unique one for the podcast. Professor and author, David Toole, has written a book on the life of his friend, Maggy Barankitse, who is an advocate, cu]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 311 &#8211; Froswa&#8217; Booker-Drew</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2025 21:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Getting the chance to meet and talk with Dr. Froswa&#8217; Booker-Drew was a time of pure light! She is as kind as she is wise and insightful and so much of her newest book, Front Porch Wisdom, will no doubt continue to impact how I view and navigate situations of leadership as a BIPOC woman. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-311-froswa-booker-drew/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 311 &#8211; Froswa&#8217; Booker-Drew</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Getting the chance to meet and talk with Dr. Froswa&#8217; Booker-Drew was a time of pure light! She is as kind as she is wise and insightful and so much of her newest book, Front Porch Wisdom, will no doubt continue to impact how I view and navigate sit]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 310 &#8211; Nicole Massie Martin</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2025 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Diving into Nicole Martin&#8216;s newest book, Nailing It, was a complete joy! Nicole comes at the complicated subject of leadership with curiosity and humility, as a learner, sharing insights that draw both from biblical and experiential wisdom. This book is neither a how-to nor a how-not-to, but an exploration on some common aspects of leadership &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-310-nicole-massie-martin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 310 &#8211; Nicole Massie Martin</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Diving into Nicole Martin&#8216;s newest book, Nailing It, was a complete joy! Nicole comes at the complicated subject of leadership with curiosity and humility, as a learner, sharing insights that draw both from biblical and experiential wisdom. This bo]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 309 &#8211; Karen Swallow Prior</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2025 20:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[What do you want to be when you grow up? What do you do for a living? Where do you work? These questions are common from childhood to cocktail party, but how do they actually relate to our vocations? Our callings? Karen Swallow Prior wrote an exquisite book offering wisdom and clarification (not a step &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-309-karen-swallow-prior/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 309 &#8211; Karen Swallow Prior</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 308 &#8211; Isaac Villegas</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2025 13:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[For weeks, it seemed that everywhere I looked, I was seeing something about Isaac Villegas&#8217;s new book, Migrant God. I couldn&#8217;t wait to get my hands on it, and I was not disappointed once I did! With everything happening in the U.S. right now surrounding immigration, this text and conversation are right on time. Don&#8217;t &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-308-isaac-villegas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 308 &#8211; Isaac Villegas</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[For weeks, it seemed that everywhere I looked, I was seeing something about Isaac Villegas&#8217;s new book, Migrant God. I couldn&#8217;t wait to get my hands on it, and I was not disappointed once I did! With everything happening in the U.S. right now ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 307 &#8211; Aimee Byrd</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Aimee Byrd was personal and powerful for me. Even though it has not been easy, I am so grateful to Aimee for sharing her story of the abuse she suffered in the church circles she was a part of. Her newest book, Saving Face, is a beautiful reflection not only on what &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-307-aimee-byrd/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 307 &#8211; Aimee Byrd</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 306 &#8211; Michaela O&#8217;Donnell</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2025 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Maybe because my life is currently in flux (and has been that way for a hot minute), I was honestly a bit hesitant to read my friend Michael O&#8217;Donnell&#8216;s new book. I&#8217;m not exactly sure why I was nervous, but it did sit on my shelf for weeks (okay, maybe even months) before I finally &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-306-michaela-odonnell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 306 &#8211; Michaela O&#8217;Donnell</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Maybe because my life is currently in flux (and has been that way for a hot minute), I was honestly a bit hesitant to read my friend Michael O&#8217;Donnell&#8216;s new book. I&#8217;m not exactly sure why I was nervous, but it did sit on my shelf for we]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 305 &#8211; David Zahl</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2025 22:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[&#8220;We are all chasing relief.&#8221; I hadn&#8217;t really thought about it in quite the same way until I read David Zahl&#8217;s The Big Relief, but then I couldn&#8217;t unsee it. Around the same time, a friend sent me an Instagram reel of a woman just breathing in and telling herself to release her shoulders. Whatever &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-305-david-zahl/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 305 &#8211; David Zahl</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[&#8220;We are all chasing relief.&#8221; I hadn&#8217;t really thought about it in quite the same way until I read David Zahl&#8217;s The Big Relief, but then I couldn&#8217;t unsee it. Around the same time, a friend sent me an Instagram reel of a woman ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 304 &#8211; Cristina Rathbone</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Cristina Rathbone, an American Episcopal priest from a family with immigration journeys of their own, spent time at the border between the U.S. and Mexico to learn from and minister to those who were waiting to cross. A former journalist, Cristina shares about her experiences on the border as she met and interacted with individuals &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-304-cristina-rathbone/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 304 &#8211; Cristina Rathbone</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 303 &#8211; Destiny Magnett</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2025 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Destiny Magnett is part of a wonderful team at one of my favorite organizations, Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP). Destiny has travelled extensively to the Middle East and has been personally impacted by her education and experiences with people living in the land as they are impacted by the conflict, policies, wars, and politics. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-303-destiny-magnett/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 303 &#8211; Destiny Magnett</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 302 &#8211; Mark Glanville</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2025 23:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hosting a return guest is one of my favorite things to do (maybe especially when that guest is seated next to his piano&#8230;)! Mark Glanville is a pastor in what he names as a post-Christian context. And even though this conversation is based on his book about writing sermons, it is truly for anyone who &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-302-mark-glanville/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 302 &#8211; Mark Glanville</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Hosting a return guest is one of my favorite things to do (maybe especially when that guest is seated next to his piano&#8230;)! Mark Glanville is a pastor in what he names as a post-Christian context. And even though this conversation is based on his bo]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 301 &#8211; Cara Meredith</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2025 23:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Welcome, Cara Meredith, back to the podcast! Cara was so kind to join me waaay back in the early months of the podcast and now she&#8217;s been brave enough to do it again! The topic in this conversation is one that is near and dear (and complicated) to both of our hearts, and maybe yours &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-301-cara-meredith/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 301 &#8211; Cara Meredith</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Welcome, Cara Meredith, back to the podcast! Cara was so kind to join me waaay back in the early months of the podcast and now she&#8217;s been brave enough to do it again! The topic in this conversation is one that is near and dear (and complicated) to ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 300 &#8211; Alexis &#038; Seth</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2025 01:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Eek! THIS MARKS 300 EPISODES!!! First of all, THANK YOU for listening to That Makes Total Sense! It really is one of the most fun things I get to do and I am *thrilled* to share it with each of you! Second, for this conversation, I got to interview my best friend, husband, editor, and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-300-alexis-seth/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 300 &#8211; Alexis &#38; Seth</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Eek! THIS MARKS 300 EPISODES!!! First of all, THANK YOU for listening to That Makes Total Sense! It really is one of the most fun things I get to do and I am *thrilled* to share it with each of you! Second, for this conversation, I got to interview my be]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 299 &#8211; Philip Marinello</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2025 14:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve got something a little different (and super fun!) with this episode. Philip Marinello of The Substance invited me back on his podcast and we had a blast catching up and talking about all things faith, politics, and of course generosity and justice! Philip loves chatting about many of the same topics as me and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-299-philip-marinello/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 299 &#8211; Philip Marinello</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve got something a little different (and super fun!) with this episode. Philip Marinello of The Substance invited me back on his podcast and we had a blast catching up and talking about all things faith, politics, and of course generosity and ju]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 298 &#8211; Angela Williams Gorrell</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2025 22:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[My kids tell me I&#8217;m a Hufflepuff. I don&#8217;t exactly deny it and encounters like the one Angela and I had might just add evidence to their label, lol! One minute we found ourselves sitting at dinner together, each invited by friends to a table where we didn&#8217;t know most of the diners, and the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-298-angela-williams-gorrell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 298 &#8211; Angela Williams Gorrell</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 297 &#8211; Resurrection Reflections (re-release)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2025 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter…and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191&#160;with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150&#160;with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140&#160;with Alexis Busetti]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 296 &#8211; Young-Sam Won (replay!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 21:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[A note from the producer: &#8220;I normally try to get the podcasts done over the weekend so they can release Sunday night or Monday morning. This weekend however, I was off climbing on rocks and doing professional work &#8211; noting my usual day job is not a producer. Anyways, I hope listeners don&#8217;t mind that &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-296-young-sam-won/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 296 &#8211; Young-Sam Won (replay!)</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 295 &#8211; Meryl Herr</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2025 11:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The current job situation in the U.S. right now is hard to navigate, to say the least. Whether it&#8217;s layoffs for federal employees, toxic bosses and cultures, or burnout, our work lives involve so much more than just the actual work. Thankfully, people like Meryl Herr are paying attention. Her new book, When Work Hurts &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-295-meryl-herr/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 295 &#8211; Meryl Herr</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The current job situation in the U.S. right now is hard to navigate, to say the least. Whether it&#8217;s layoffs for federal employees, toxic bosses and cultures, or burnout, our work lives involve so much more than just the actual work. Thankfully, peo]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 294 &#8211; Lisa Stephenson &#038; Ruthie Wienk</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 23:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Drs. Lisa Stephenson and Ruthie Wienk are professors of systematic theology and sociology, respectively, and they have teamed up to write a wonderful, textual guide on service in the Christian community. Historically, and even now, the evangelical community in the U.S. has gone through different phases and stances on service or what some may call &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-294-lisa-stephenson-ruthie-wienk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 294 &#8211; Lisa Stephenson &#38; Ruthie Wienk</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 293 &#8211; Todd Hall</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2025 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Lately, the psychology section on my bookshelf has increased by a few titles, and while I have zero background in the field (except seeing a therapist, hallelujah!), it is increasingly more fascinating to me. This conversation with Todd Hall, professor of psychology, was a great addition to my novice study (though it would also be &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-293-todd-hall/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 293 &#8211; Todd Hall</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 292 &#8211; Erin Devers</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 01:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Dr. Erin Devers was so much fun! We discussed some of the concepts from her new book, The Unbiased Self, and I found it to be fascinating. As a psychology professor, Erin brings so much insight into the world of bias, how we all operate with it, and what we can do &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-292-erin-devers/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 292 &#8211; Erin Devers</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation with Dr. Erin Devers was so much fun! We discussed some of the concepts from her new book, The Unbiased Self, and I found it to be fascinating. As a psychology professor, Erin brings so much insight into the world of bias, how we all op]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 291 &#8211; Caryn Reeder (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2025 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s pick in honor of Women&#8217;s History Month! Reading&#160;Caryn Reeder‘s&#160;new book&#160;had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-291-caryn-reeder-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 291 &#8211; Caryn Reeder (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s pick in honor of Women&#8217;s History Month! Reading&#160;Caryn Reeder‘s&#160;new book&#160;had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels – The Samaritan Woman in Joh]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 290 &#8211; Andrew Bauman</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2025 17:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[I experienced so many emotions reading Andrew Bauman&#8216;s new book, Safe Church. Among them, was the feeling of being seen. In his research, Andrew, who is a professional counselor, surveyed and interviewed women who have spent various amounts of time in evangelical churches and ministry environments in the U.S. These women reported experiences of sexism &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-290-andrew-bauman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 290 &#8211; Andrew Bauman</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I experienced so many emotions reading Andrew Bauman&#8216;s new book, Safe Church. Among them, was the feeling of being seen. In his research, Andrew, who is a professional counselor, surveyed and interviewed women who have spent various amounts of time]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 289 &#8211; Mike Austin</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[As you can see from the search below, Christian nationalism has been a common topic on the podcast. Professor Michael W. Austin has written a short book called simply, American Christian Nationalism, and our conversation on that text is one I am happy to have as an addition to the list. Mike gives us a &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-289-mike-austin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 289 &#8211; Mike Austin</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[As you can see from the search below, Christian nationalism has been a common topic on the podcast. Professor Michael W. Austin has written a short book called simply, American Christian Nationalism, and our conversation on that text is one I am happy to]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 288 &#8211; Andrew Draper</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Episode 287 &#8211; Joel Edward Goza</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2025 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Joel Edward Goza joined me on the podcast to talk about his newest book, Rebirth of a Nation: Reparations and Remaking America. You might recognize in the title, a take on another title, The Birth of a Nation, an incredibly harmful and racist film shown at the White House in 1915 by president Woodrow Wilson. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-287-joel-edward-goza/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 287 &#8211; Joel Edward Goza</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 286 &#8211; Heather Matthews</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2025 22:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[When I first started reading Heather Matthews&#8217; new book, Confronting Sexism in the Church, I was struck (yet again) by how familiar her story is. Over and over again, I have come to realize that I&#8217;m not the only one. So many other women have been told they are less than, that they couldn&#8217;t have &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-286-heather-matthews/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 286 &#8211; Heather Matthews</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[When I first started reading Heather Matthews&#8217; new book, Confronting Sexism in the Church, I was struck (yet again) by how familiar her story is. Over and over again, I have come to realize that I&#8217;m not the only one. So many other women have ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 285 &#8211; Erin Hicks Moon</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2025 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The wise and hilarious Erin Hicks Moon joined me for this episode and I am thrilled to share it with you! She has written a book on deconstruction called, I&#8217;ve Got Questions, and reading it felt like collecting little pieces of home over a cup of coffee with a friend who understood right where I &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-285-erin-hicks-moon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 285 &#8211; Erin Hicks Moon</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The wise and hilarious Erin Hicks Moon joined me for this episode and I am thrilled to share it with you! She has written a book on deconstruction called, I&#8217;ve Got Questions, and reading it felt like collecting little pieces of home over a cup of c]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 284 &#8211; Malcolm Foley</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2025 23:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you&#8217;re as intrigued as I was, even by the title and sub-title alone, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-284-malcolm-foley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 284 &#8211; Malcolm Foley</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[That Makes Total Sense! regular, the Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, is back on the podcast and I could not be more psyched! His new book, The Anti-Greed Gospel releases next month and I cannot wait for it to hit the shelves. If you&#8217;re as intrigued as I wa]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 283 &#8211; Liz Charlotte Grant</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2025 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[What a joy to host Liz Charlotte Grant (and read her book)! One of the things I have enjoyed so much in studying the bible is taking in different interpretive perspectives. Liz is a creative writer and someone who became curious about biblical interpretations from theologians she had not read or studied early in her &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-283-liz-charlotte-grant/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 283 &#8211; Liz Charlotte Grant</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 282 &#8211; Andrew Rillera</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2025 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Phew! Hold on to your hats! We&#8217;ve got an incredible discussion for you today with Dr. Andrew Rillera, New Testament scholar. His newest book, Lamb of the Free, tackles not only the sacrifice of Jesus, but does so as part of the whole sacrificial system we see in the Bible. We start by naming a &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-282-andrew-rillera/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 282 &#8211; Andrew Rillera</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Phew! Hold on to your hats! We&#8217;ve got an incredible discussion for you today with Dr. Andrew Rillera, New Testament scholar. His newest book, Lamb of the Free, tackles not only the sacrifice of Jesus, but does so as part of the whole sacrificial sy]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 281 &#8211; Jennifer McNutt</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[When Jennifer McNutt&#8217;s newest book arrived in the mail, I instantly started flipping through it (and immediately texted a friend)! What I held in my hands, was a beautiful, thoughtful, and thorough look at the person and character of Mary Magdelene and as a female theologian, it felt like a real gift. The Mary We &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-281-jennifer-mcnutt/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 281 &#8211; Jennifer McNutt</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 279 &#8211; Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2024 01:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This was a wonderful conversation on church, health, justice, and community with Pricelis! Her unique perspective as someone with a background in social work and someone who has worked on staff in church settings brings something insightful and beautiful to this larger discussion around church life. For more on this topic, be sure to check &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-279-pricelis-perreaux-dominguez/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 279 &#8211; Pricelis Perreaux-Dominguez</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This was a wonderful conversation on church, health, justice, and community with Pricelis! Her unique perspective as someone with a background in social work and someone who has worked on staff in church settings brings something insightful and beautiful]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 278 &#8211; Lore Ferguson Wilbert</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2024 21:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Lore was recorded barely a week after the presidential election. Truthfully, I was still pretty raw coming into our talk and that morning was a particularly rough one in my grieving process. What Lore&#8217;s beautiful book and our interview reminded me of in the midst of my feelings of sadness, disbelief, and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-278-lore-ferguson-wilbert/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 278 &#8211; Lore Ferguson Wilbert</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 277 &#8211; Chris Blumhofer</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2024 19:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Chris Blumhofer is a professor of New Testament at Fuller Theological Seminary. From personal experience, I can tell you his classes are wonderful! They are insightful, thought-provoking, and challenging. One of the mindsets, and now habits, I have taken away from my instructional time with Chris is permission to wrestle with our sacred texts &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-277-chris-blumhofer/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 277 &#8211; Chris Blumhofer</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 276 &#8211; Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 02:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s choice! Here&#8217;s a note from my producer (and husband) Seth Busetti about this week&#8217;s re-release. Enjoy! I thought this episode with Kaitlyn Schiess might be helpful to our listeners. When this was first recorded the political landscape was still very uncertain and Kaitlyn&#8217;s wisdom regarding how Christians can faithfully engage in civil discourse and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-276-kaitlyn-schiess-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 276 &#8211; Kaitlyn Schiess (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s choice! Here&#8217;s a note from my producer (and husband) Seth Busetti about this week&#8217;s re-release. Enjoy! I thought this episode with Kaitlyn Schiess might be helpful to our listeners. When this was first recorded the political ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 275 &#8211; Tiffany Bluhm</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 23:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This new devotional by Tiffany Bluhm (along with some other fantastic contributors!) is one I see myself coming back to again and again. In The Women We&#8217;ve Been Waiting For, Tiffany and several women authors, bring us the stories of biblical, historical, and contemporary female figures who have resisted the status quo for the sake &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-275-tiffany-bluhm/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 275 &#8211; Tiffany Bluhm</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This new devotional by Tiffany Bluhm (along with some other fantastic contributors!) is one I see myself coming back to again and again. In The Women We&#8217;ve Been Waiting For, Tiffany and several women authors, bring us the stories of biblical, histo]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 274 &#8211; Robert G. Callahan, II</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2024 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I know I should give some sort of explanation here. I should say all the things this episode is about, but, I&#8217;m tired. This has been a week, and instead of explaining all of the things, I am just going to say &#8211; go and listen to this conversation with Robert! He is sharing his &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-274-robert-g-callahan-ii/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 274 &#8211; Robert G. Callahan, II</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 273 &#8211; Amy-Jill Levine</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 03 Nov 2024 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Amy-Jill Levine is a professor of New Testament and Jewish Studies at Vanderbilt University. AJ is a Jewish scholar and has written extensively on the New Testament and on Jesus. Her most recent book is Jesus for Everyone and it is fantastic! Part of what she seeks to do in this text (and how &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-273-amy-jill-levine/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 273 &#8211; Amy-Jill Levine</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 272 &#8211; Collin Cornell</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[My friend, Dr. Collin Cornell is back on the podcast! The topic we discuss is one I have always wrestled with, so it was good to pick an Old Testament scholar&#8217;s brain on it &#8211; God&#8217;s aggression. You&#8217;ll see below that Collin has recently published on the topic, but we didn&#8217;t stick to the text &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-272-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 272 &#8211; Collin Cornell</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[My friend, Dr. Collin Cornell is back on the podcast! The topic we discuss is one I have always wrestled with, so it was good to pick an Old Testament scholar&#8217;s brain on it &#8211; God&#8217;s aggression. You&#8217;ll see below that Collin has rece]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 271 &#8211; David Swanson</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2024 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson&#8217;s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares some of his own personal and communal journey, inviting us to imagine what &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-271-david-swanson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 271 &#8211; David Swanson</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[One of my favorite podcast guests is back to talk about his new book! David Swanson&#8217;s Plundered is absolutely beautiful. In it, he explores the history of environmental and racial injustice in the U.S. and how they are intertwined. He also shares s]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 270 &#8211; Terry Wildman (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[In honor of Indigenous People&#8217;s Day, we&#8217;re re-playing my conversation with Terry Wildman! Terry Wildman is the lead translator and project manager of the&#160;First Nations Version&#160;of the New Testament. In this conversation, Terry talks about the intersection of being Christian and Native and what that has meant for him as he has explored the two, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-270-terry-wildman-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 270 &#8211; Terry Wildman (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[In honor of Indigenous People&#8217;s Day, we&#8217;re re-playing my conversation with Terry Wildman! Terry Wildman is the lead translator and project manager of the&#160;First Nations Version&#160;of the New Testament. In this conversation, Terry talks ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 269 &#8211; Elesha Coffman</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2024 22:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Confession time &#8211; I&#8217;m not a big history buff. As critical as I know it is, it&#8217;s never really been my thing, but&#8230;when I came across this title by Elesha Coffman, I knew I had to get it in my hands and read it! And I&#8217;m so glad I did! Turning Points in American Church &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-269-elesha-coffman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 269 &#8211; Elesha Coffman</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Confession time &#8211; I&#8217;m not a big history buff. As critical as I know it is, it&#8217;s never really been my thing, but&#8230;when I came across this title by Elesha Coffman, I knew I had to get it in my hands and read it! And I&#8217;m so glad]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 268 &#8211; Erin Weber-Johnson</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[A few years ago, offline, a guest mentioned a term that represented a concept that put a metaphorical pebble in my shoe &#8211; &#8220;philanthropic redlining.&#8221; I knew a bit of the history of redlining from real estate practices in the U.S., and of course I also knew, generally, what philanthropy was, but to hear them &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-268-erin-weber-johnson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 268 &#8211; Erin Weber-Johnson</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[A few years ago, offline, a guest mentioned a term that represented a concept that put a metaphorical pebble in my shoe &#8211; &#8220;philanthropic redlining.&#8221; I knew a bit of the history of redlining from real estate practices in the U.S., and of]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 267 &#8211; Amy Dixon &#038; Rob Dixon</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2024 12:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation is (checks notes) the first where I talked with a husband and wife together, in this case, co-authors! Amy Dixon and Rob Dixon joined me to celebrate the release of their illustrated children&#8217;s book, Penny Preaches, which chronicles a fictional little girl (representative of so many women who feel called to preaching ministry, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-267-amy-dixon-rob-dixon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 267 &#8211; Amy Dixon &#38; Rob Dixon</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 261 &#8211; Grace Ji-Sun Kim</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This week I was joined by theologian Grace Ji-Sun Kim. Her newest book (she&#8217;s published so many!) is When God Became White. If you&#8217;re intrigued by the title already, you&#8217;re not alone. Grace writes, not only as a scholar and theologian, but also from her perspective as a Korean immigrant who grew up in Canada &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-261-grace-ji-sun-kim/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 261 &#8211; Grace Ji-Sun Kim</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 265 &#8211; Jim Wallis</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2024 22:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so thrilled to host Jim Wallis again on the podcast! (It&#8217;s a special bonus for me because the date of this release marks 5 YEARS THE PODCAST!) Jim and I first met in Washington D.C. at the inaugural Summer Academy at the Center on Faith &#38; Justice at Georgetown University, though his work &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-265-jim-wallis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 265 &#8211; Jim Wallis</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so thrilled to host Jim Wallis again on the podcast! (It&#8217;s a special bonus for me because the date of this release marks 5 YEARS THE PODCAST!) Jim and I first met in Washington D.C. at the inaugural Summer Academy at the Center on Faith &#38; ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 264 &#8211; Andrew Krinks</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2024 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Andrew Krinks has been on the podcast before and both times, he has managed to take a topic I have thought about often and deeply and add depth and breadth that I hadn&#8217;t yet considered. (His wife, Lindsey did the same thing for me with this conversation on homelessness.) The first time, Andrew and I &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-264-andrew-krinks/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 264 &#8211; Andrew Krinks</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Andrew Krinks has been on the podcast before and both times, he has managed to take a topic I have thought about often and deeply and add depth and breadth that I hadn&#8217;t yet considered. (His wife, Lindsey did the same thing for me with this convers]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 263 &#8211; Sarah Stankorb</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation is over a year in the making. When I first heard about this project last spring, I was intrigued and completely unprepared to read this book, much less do an interview. What Sarah Stankorb has done in Disobedient Women is extraordinary. For fans of Kristen Kobes Du Mez&#8217;s Jesus and John Wayne, you&#8217;ll &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-263-sarah-stankorb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 263 &#8211; Sarah Stankorb</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation is over a year in the making. When I first heard about this project last spring, I was intrigued and completely unprepared to read this book, much less do an interview. What Sarah Stankorb has done in Disobedient Women is extraordinary.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 262 &#8211; Sarah Westfall</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 01:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Reading through Sarah Westfall&#8217;s book, The Way of Belonging, felt like making an instant friend! It felt like making a friend who also struggles with new friendships, what it means to belong, and who is also a huge fan of Henri Nouwan (more on that in the episode!). Sarah is asking questions I think many &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-262-sarah-westfall/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 262 &#8211; Sarah Westfall</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Reading through Sarah Westfall&#8217;s book, The Way of Belonging, felt like making an instant friend! It felt like making a friend who also struggles with new friendships, what it means to belong, and who is also a huge fan of Henri Nouwan (more on that]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 261 &#8211; Jasmine Bellamy</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2024 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Welcome back to the podcast, to my friend, Jasmine Bellamy! Jasmine has been up to a lot since the last time we chatted, including beginning a doctoral program at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a business leader and joyful disrupter, as we&#8217;ll chat about, and she is concerned with how we can be more loving &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-261-jasmine-bellamy/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 261 &#8211; Jasmine Bellamy</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Welcome back to the podcast, to my friend, Jasmine Bellamy! Jasmine has been up to a lot since the last time we chatted, including beginning a doctoral program at Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a business leader and joyful disrupter, as we&#8217;ll ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 260 &#8211; Norman Wirzba (replay!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 04 Aug 2024 20:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This is a vacay replay! Our fam was out on one last getaway of the summer, so we picked one of our favorites (also happens to be a fan favorite!) to replay this week. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do! It’s hard to describe how I felt reading&#160;Norman Wirzba‘s book,&#160;This Sacred &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-260-norman-wirzba-re-play/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 260 &#8211; Norman Wirzba (replay!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This is a vacay replay! Our fam was out on one last getaway of the summer, so we picked one of our favorites (also happens to be a fan favorite!) to replay this week. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do! It’s hard to describe how I felt reading&#160;No]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 259 &#8211; Dieula Previlon</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[As a therapist and pastor, working with and ministering to women from all over the globe for years, Dieula Previlon understands trauma and the effects it can have on women and their communities. She also understands how when women begin to heal from trauma, it has a huge impact on the people around them as &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-259-dieula-previlon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 259 &#8211; Dieula Previlon</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 258 &#8211; Khristi Lauren Adams</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2024 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[One of my absolute favorite things about studying in seminary has been the exposure to new and different theological perspectives! As members of the Body of Christ, we are truly all built in unique ways, having had different personal experiences that teach us about God, God&#8217;s world, and our place in it. Khristi Adams brings &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-258-khristi-lauren-adams/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 258 &#8211; Khristi Lauren Adams</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[One of my absolute favorite things about studying in seminary has been the exposure to new and different theological perspectives! As members of the Body of Christ, we are truly all built in unique ways, having had different personal experiences that tea]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 257 &#8211; Michael Wear (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Producer&#8217;s Pick! As some of you may know, the Houston area was hit hard this past week by a hurricane. The category 1 storm, Beryl, wreaked havoc on the infrastructure here, leaving more than 2 million homes and places of business without power. We were among those affected, having lost power for almost 6 days &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-257-michael-wear-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 257 &#8211; Michael Wear (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 256 &#8211; Mark Glanville</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2024 17:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This is the very first time in the history of That Makes Total Sense! where a guest has played live music as a part of the conversation and I am here for it! Dr. Mark Glanville, pastor, author, and scholar, is also a professional jazz pianist and he can&#8217;t help but see how an exploration &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-256-mark-glanville/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 256 &#8211; Mark Glanville</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This is the very first time in the history of That Makes Total Sense! where a guest has played live music as a part of the conversation and I am here for it! Dr. Mark Glanville, pastor, author, and scholar, is also a professional jazz pianist and he can&]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 255 &#8211; Jemar Tisby (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 13:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[With the 4th of July coming up this week, I wanted to share this conversation with you again. It is good to celebrate our country and it is also good to critique it. In this episode, Jemar and I spoke with each other literally less than a week after the insurrection on the Capitol on &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-255-jemar-tisby-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 255 &#8211; Jemar Tisby (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[With the 4th of July coming up this week, I wanted to share this conversation with you again. It is good to celebrate our country and it is also good to critique it. In this episode, Jemar and I spoke with each other literally less than a week after the ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 254 &#8211; Brian Kaylor</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 20:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Growing up inside American evangelicalism, I can see now that there was definitely a taste of Christian nationalism thrown into the cultural mix (though I certainly couldn&#8217;t name it at the time). If you grew up culturally Chrisitan in the U.S., the same is probably true for you, too. What Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-254-brian-kaylor/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 254 &#8211; Brian Kaylor</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Growing up inside American evangelicalism, I can see now that there was definitely a taste of Christian nationalism thrown into the cultural mix (though I certainly couldn&#8217;t name it at the time). If you grew up culturally Chrisitan in the U.S., the]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 253 &#8211; Jenai Auman</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2024 17:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[There is a lot of talk these days about the hurts and abuses taking place inside of churches. Unfortunately, that is true because such instances are not uncommon. Not only does it seem like every week a new story breaks of pastor or other Christian leader failing in his (usually these awful stories feature men) &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-253-jenai-auman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 253 &#8211; Jenai Auman</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[There is a lot of talk these days about the hurts and abuses taking place inside of churches. Unfortunately, that is true because such instances are not uncommon. Not only does it seem like every week a new story breaks of pastor or other Christian leade]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 252 &#8211; Bekah McNeel</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2024 13:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[As soon as I saw Bekah McNeel had a new book coming out, I was lining up to talk with her (and I didn&#8217;t even know the subject, lol!). When I learned it was about suffering and our response to it, I was certain this was a conversation I&#8217;d want to have (that&#8217;s mostly because, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-252-bekah-mcneel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 252 &#8211; Bekah McNeel</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[As soon as I saw Bekah McNeel had a new book coming out, I was lining up to talk with her (and I didn&#8217;t even know the subject, lol!). When I learned it was about suffering and our response to it, I was certain this was a conversation I&#8217;d want]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 251 &#8211; Anna Broadway</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2024 12:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Anna Broadway is an author who has literally traveled around the world to bring her newest book to us! And, oh yeah, she&#8217;s a single Christian. In Solo Planet, which was the basis for this conversation, Anna explores what it&#8217;s like to be single in Christian communities all over the globe. In addition to sharing &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-251-with-anna-broadway/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 251 &#8211; Anna Broadway</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Anna Broadway is an author who has literally traveled around the world to bring her newest book to us! And, oh yeah, she&#8217;s a single Christian. In Solo Planet, which was the basis for this conversation, Anna explores what it&#8217;s like to be singl]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 250 &#8211; Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2024 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Dr. Brenda, I consider it to be a good day (and this recording day was a good day!). We chatted about her newest book, Empowered to Repair, which takes its themes from the story surrounding Ezra and Nehemiah (don&#8217;t worry if it&#8217;s been a minute since you&#8217;ve read &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-250-dr-brenda-salter-mcneil/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 250 &#8211; Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Any time I get to talk with Dr. Brenda, I consider it to be a good day (and this recording day was a good day!). We chatted about her newest book, Empowered to Repair, which takes its themes from the story surrounding Ezra and Nehemiah (don&#8217;t worry]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 249 &#8211; Scott Coley</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[The subject matter of Scott Coley&#8217;s new book might be familiar to many of us, but the way in which he presents it was new for me! Scott is a philosopher and professor, so he comes at many of the questions (and problems) we see within the religious right, especially in the United States, from &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-249-scott-coley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 249 &#8211; Scott Coley</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The subject matter of Scott Coley&#8217;s new book might be familiar to many of us, but the way in which he presents it was new for me! Scott is a philosopher and professor, so he comes at many of the questions (and problems) we see within the religious ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 248 &#8211; Courtney Ellis</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Talking with Courtney Ellis about, of all things, grief and birds was so wonderfully rich! Before I read her newest book, Looking Up, I had no idea how beautiful vultures could be, for example, and how God&#8217;s plans for creation, life and death included, could reveal so much about God&#8217;s character and our relationships to &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-248-courtney-ellis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 248 &#8211; Courtney Ellis</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Talking with Courtney Ellis about, of all things, grief and birds was so wonderfully rich! Before I read her newest book, Looking Up, I had no idea how beautiful vultures could be, for example, and how God&#8217;s plans for creation, life and death inclu]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 247 &#8211; Ashlee Eiland</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2024 18:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[It is an absolute joy to share space with Ashlee Eiland! She was brave enough to come on the podcast during my first year and gracious enough to join me again. This time our conversation centered around her newest book, Say Good. We all know we&#8217;re navigating (often, whether we like it or not) difficult &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-247-ashlee-eiland/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 247 &#8211; Ashlee Eiland</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It is an absolute joy to share space with Ashlee Eiland! She was brave enough to come on the podcast during my first year and gracious enough to join me again. This time our conversation centered around her newest book, Say Good. We all know we&#8217;re ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 246 &#8211; Henriette Mutegwaraba</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[April marks genocide awareness month, bringing attention to all the atrocities the world has witnessed in the past and offering a collective never again to any present or future threats. This April also marks 30 years since the Rwandan genocide, which began in April of 1994 where one million Tutsi people lost their lives at &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-246-henriette-mutegwaraba/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 246 &#8211; Henriette Mutegwaraba</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[April marks genocide awareness month, bringing attention to all the atrocities the world has witnessed in the past and offering a collective never again to any present or future threats. This April also marks 30 years since the Rwandan genocide, which be]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 245 &#8211; Jenny McGee</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[What a pleasure to have the chance to talk with Jenny McGee, the founder of Starfish Project! A few pieces from the jewelry collection at Starfish Project have found their way into my personal collection over the years (okay, I specifically picked them out and asked for them for Christmases, birthdays, etc.) and ever since &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-245-jenny-mcgee/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 245 &#8211; Jenny McGee</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[What a pleasure to have the chance to talk with Jenny McGee, the founder of Starfish Project! A few pieces from the jewelry collection at Starfish Project have found their way into my personal collection over the years (okay, I specifically picked them o]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 244 &#8211; Trey Ferguson</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 19:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Pastor Trey Ferguson easily and quickly became one of my favorites. Not did our time together feel life-giving, akin to having a cup (or many cups) of coffee with a dear friend, but his theological explorations were encouraging and, in some instances, challenging. Trey&#8217;s new book, Theologizin&#8217; Bigger is not your typical &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-244-trey-ferguson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 244 &#8211; Trey Ferguson</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation with Pastor Trey Ferguson easily and quickly became one of my favorites. Not did our time together feel life-giving, akin to having a cup (or many cups) of coffee with a dear friend, but his theological explorations were encouraging and]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 243 &#8211; Zion Lester &#038; Terence Lester</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2024 20:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s not very often that I ask my kids to preview a book I receive for the podcast, but it&#8217;s also not very often that I am preparing to interview the authors of a children&#8217;s book (including a teenage co-author)! Zion Learns to See by Zion Lester and her father Terence covers the difficult topic &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-243-zion-lester-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 243 &#8211; Zion Lester &#38; Terence Lester</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It&#8217;s not very often that I ask my kids to preview a book I receive for the podcast, but it&#8217;s also not very often that I am preparing to interview the authors of a children&#8217;s book (including a teenage co-author)! Zion Learns to See by Zi]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 242 &#8211; Alexis Busetti</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter&#8230;and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[A short reflection on the day after Easter&#8230;and doubt. Mentioned in this episode: Matthew 28 You might also enjoy: Ep. 191 with Alexis Busetti Ep. 150 with Jason Porterfield Ep. 140 with Alexis Busetti]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 241 &#8211; Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2024 23:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). In the spring of 2022, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don’t say that lightly!). As Christians, not just those &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-241-dwight-radcliff-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 241 &#8211; Dwight Radcliff (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). In the spring of 2022, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-alteri]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 240 &#8211; Malcolm Foley</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Okay. I hope you have *half* as much fun listening to this episode as Malcolm and I had recording it! We went in with no notes, no background reading material, and (almost) no filters. Malcolm first came on the podcast in 2020 and we talked about his dissertation work on the history of lynching in &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-240-malcolm-foley/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 240 &#8211; Malcolm Foley</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Okay. I hope you have *half* as much fun listening to this episode as Malcolm and I had recording it! We went in with no notes, no background reading material, and (almost) no filters. Malcolm first came on the podcast in 2020 and we talked about his dis]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 239 &#8211; Michael Wear</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 13:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Michael Wear is one of the voices I&#8217;ve been listening to, regarding politics and the Christian faith, for years now. I first heard him on a podcast (linked below) where he and his friend, Justin Giboney, were speaking about politics in ways that A. resonated deeply with me and B. I hadn&#8217;t heard many, if &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-239-michael-wear/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 239 &#8211; Michael Wear</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Michael Wear is one of the voices I&#8217;ve been listening to, regarding politics and the Christian faith, for years now. I first heard him on a podcast (linked below) where he and his friend, Justin Giboney, were speaking about politics in ways that A.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 238 &#8211; Mark Elsdon</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-238-mark-elsdon/</link>
	<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2024 01:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[When you think about your community or the neighborhoods around you, how many church buildings do you think you pass by on a daily basis? What takes place in those buildings, both on Sundays and throughout the week? And how do those spaces serve the people in close proximity? These are questions that Mark Elsdon &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-238-mark-elsdon/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 238 &#8211; Mark Elsdon</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[When you think about your community or the neighborhoods around you, how many church buildings do you think you pass by on a daily basis? What takes place in those buildings, both on Sundays and throughout the week? And how do those spaces serve the peop]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 237 &#8211; Norman Wirzba</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba&#8216;s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be shaped by it. As people, sometimes it&#8217;s easy to believe &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-237-norman-wirzba/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 237 &#8211; Norman Wirzba</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It&#8217;s hard to describe how I felt reading Norman Wirzba&#8216;s book, This Sacred Life. He offers a thick theological insight on how we live in the world and some opportunities for growing into how we could not only shape the world around us, but be]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 236 &#8211; David Fitch</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2024 02:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[David Fitch is a professor at Northern Seminary and the author of several books, the latest of which is on a topic I dare say most Christians have pondered, especially in the last few years&#8230;power. In Reckoning with Power David presents a brief history of how we have come to view power, especially in the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-236-david-fitch/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 236 &#8211; David Fitch</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[David Fitch is a professor at Northern Seminary and the author of several books, the latest of which is on a topic I dare say most Christians have pondered, especially in the last few years&#8230;power. In Reckoning with Power David presents a brief hist]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 235 &#8211; Adam Gustine</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Adam Gustine (and his book!) had me thinking about all kinds of things related to justice and to church. As believers in Jesus and part of the community called the Church, many of us are convinced that means embodying aspects of justice in some way, shape, or form, but what does that &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-235-adam-gustine/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 235 &#8211; Adam Gustine</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation with Adam Gustine (and his book!) had me thinking about all kinds of things related to justice and to church. As believers in Jesus and part of the community called the Church, many of us are convinced that means embodying aspects of ju]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 234 &#8211; Lamar Hardwick</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2024 01:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Lamar Hardwick is back on the podcast! If you happened to miss our first conversation, I highly recommend you go back and listen. Lamar&#8217;s book, Disability and the Church, was the topic and it challenged my theology (in all kinds of good ways!). This time around we talked about his most recent book, How Ableism &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-234-lamar-hardwick/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 234 &#8211; Lamar Hardwick</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Dr. Lamar Hardwick is back on the podcast! If you happened to miss our first conversation, I highly recommend you go back and listen. Lamar&#8217;s book, Disability and the Church, was the topic and it challenged my theology (in all kinds of good ways!).]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 233 &#8211; Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2024 01:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[And the most played episode of 2023 was&#8230;my conversation with Jon Ward! Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-233-jon-ward-top-episodes-of-2023-1/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 233 &#8211; Jon Ward (Top Episodes of 2023: #1)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[And the most played episode of 2023 was&#8230;my conversation with Jon Ward! Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He’s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 232 &#8211; Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-232-phuc-luu-top-episodes-of-2023-2/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2024 23:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[The countdown continues with the #2 episode of 2023 &#8211; Dr. Phuc Luu! In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-232-phuc-luu-top-episodes-of-2023-2/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 232 &#8211; Phuc Luu (Top Episodes of 2023: #2)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The countdown continues with the #2 episode of 2023 &#8211; Dr. Phuc Luu! In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It’s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted i]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 231 &#8211; Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-231-karen-swallow-prior-top-episodes-of-2023-3/</link>
	<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 01:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am pumped to continue the top five countdown from 2023 with this amazing conversation with Karen Swallow Prior! Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-231-karen-swallow-prior-top-episodes-of-2023-3/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 231 &#8211; Karen Swallow Prior (Top Episodes of 2023: #3)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am pumped to continue the top five countdown from 2023 with this amazing conversation with Karen Swallow Prior! Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Kar]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 230 &#8211; Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2024 14:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re continuing the release of the top 5 episodes of 2023! Up this week, my conversation with Dr. Collin Cornell about his (newly published!) article on God and fellowship. Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-230-collin-cornell-top-episodes-of-2023-4/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 230 &#8211; Collin Cornell (Top Episodes of 2023: #4)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[We&#8217;re continuing the release of the top 5 episodes of 2023! Up this week, my conversation with Dr. Collin Cornell about his (newly published!) article on God and fellowship. Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theologic]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 229 &#8211; Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 16:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[To start off 2024, I am pleased to re-release the top 5, most listened to episodes of 2023! I just know you&#8217;ll enjoy this first installment with Dr. Jen Rosner of Fuller Theological Seminary! It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-229-jen-rosner-top-episodes-of-2023-5/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 229 &#8211; Jen Rosner (Top Episodes of 2023: #5)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[To start off 2024, I am pleased to re-release the top 5, most listened to episodes of 2023! I just know you&#8217;ll enjoy this first installment with Dr. Jen Rosner of Fuller Theological Seminary! It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to th]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 228 &#8211; The Magnificat</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2023 22:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Merry Christmas from our home to yours! How can Mary&#8217;s example, help us work toward God&#8217;s kingdom when, as Mary, what we speak doesn&#8217;t line up with what we see? Luke 1, the commonly read Christmas morning text, contains Mary&#8217;s song, her Magnificat. The prophetess sang of the promise of God&#8217;s coming kingdom. That the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-228-the-magnificat/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 228 &#8211; The Magnificat</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Merry Christmas from our home to yours! How can Mary&#8217;s example, help us work toward God&#8217;s kingdom when, as Mary, what we speak doesn&#8217;t line up with what we see? Luke 1, the commonly read Christmas morning text, contains Mary&#8217;s son]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 227 &#8211; Scott Erickson (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2023 22:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book &#8211; the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little closer to home with the ideas heard in &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-227-scott-erickson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 227 &#8211; Scott Erickson (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This one is becoming an annual favorite! Just this week, a friend texted asking for the name of this book &#8211; the one I gifted to about a dozen of my girlfriends the year it was released. Each year, Scott Erickson helps bring the season a little clos]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 226 &#8211; Dennis Edwards</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[It is such a joy for me every time I get to chat with Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards! (Here are our first two conversations for the podcast.) When I saw the title of his newest book, I knew A.) I *had* to read it! and B.) that I *had* to ask him back on the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-226-dennis-edwards/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 226 &#8211; Dennis Edwards</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It is such a joy for me every time I get to chat with Rev. Dr. Dennis Edwards! (Here are our first two conversations for the podcast.) When I saw the title of his newest book, I knew A.) I *had* to read it! and B.) that I *had* to ask him back on the &#8]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 225 &#8211; Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2023 01:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise, Kelley Nikondeha‘s words will minister to you all year long! Her book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what was the political climate &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-225-kelly-nikondeha-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 225 &#8211; Kelly Nikondeha (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise, Kelley Nikondeha‘s words will minister to you all year long! Her book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus’ birth. We]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Ep. 224 &#8211; Matthew Kaemingk</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2023 21:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Woohoo! Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is back on the podcast! And this time, he is talking about the incredibly important subjects of work and worship. Conversations concerning work and worship have abounded in my house for decades. How do we view work? What&#8217;s in a calling? What about ministry as a vocation? Where do we see &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-224-matthew-kaemingk/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Ep. 224 &#8211; Matthew Kaemingk</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Woohoo! Dr. Matthew Kaemingk is back on the podcast! And this time, he is talking about the incredibly important subjects of work and worship. Conversations concerning work and worship have abounded in my house for decades. How do we view work? What&#821]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 223 &#8211; Greg Garrett</title>
	<link>https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-223-greg-garrett/</link>
	<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Professor Dr. Greg Garrett of Baylor University has written a wonderful book on the prophet James Baldwin. For those who may not be familiar, James Baldwin was an author and civil rights leader who was born in New York and lived out his middle years and final days in Europe. While his life ended, his &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-223-greg-garrett/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 223 &#8211; Greg Garrett</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Professor Dr. Greg Garrett of Baylor University has written a wonderful book on the prophet James Baldwin. For those who may not be familiar, James Baldwin was an author and civil rights leader who was born in New York and lived out his middle years and ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 222 &#8211; Jennifer Holberg</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[It was a wonderful privilege to chat with Dr. Jennifer Holberg. If you listened to my conversation with (the Notorious) Karen Swallow Prior, you&#8217;ll remember that I get a little nervous talking with English professors, haha!, but, like KSP, Jennifer was a delight! Jennifer teaches at Calvin University where she is the chair of the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-222-jennifer-holberg/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 222 &#8211; Jennifer Holberg</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It was a wonderful privilege to chat with Dr. Jennifer Holberg. If you listened to my conversation with (the Notorious) Karen Swallow Prior, you&#8217;ll remember that I get a little nervous talking with English professors, haha!, but, like KSP, Jennifer]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 221 &#8211; Robert P. Jones</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2023 23:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the author of several books, including his most recent The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, which is the topic of this conversation. In it, Robert connects the founding of the U.S., specifically the genocide and removal of Native peoples, with &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-221-robert-p-jones/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 221 &#8211; Robert P. Jones</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Robert P. Jones is the president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the author of several books, including his most recent The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, which is the topic of this conversation. In it, Robert connects the ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 220 &#8211; Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 22:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[I did not know this book (and this conversation!) with Dr. Chanequa was exactly what I needed right now. Dr. Chanequa, as a psychologist, professor, and preacher, encourages and challenges that self-care ought not be an afterthought in our daily lives. Also being true, self-care doesn&#8217;t only consist of the things we&#8217;ve been socialized to &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-220-dr-chanequa-walker-barnes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 220 &#8211; Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I did not know this book (and this conversation!) with Dr. Chanequa was exactly what I needed right now. Dr. Chanequa, as a psychologist, professor, and preacher, encourages and challenges that self-care ought not be an afterthought in our daily lives. A]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 219 &#8211; Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2023 00:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon was originally released in December of 2021. In it, Mae gives a brief, but rich, balanced, and incredibly well-informed explanation of the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Mae is the executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace&#160;(CMEP), a coalition working to promote sound U.S. policy as &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-219-mae-elise-cannon-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 219 &#8211; Mae Elise Cannon (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation with Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon was originally released in December of 2021. In it, Mae gives a brief, but rich, balanced, and incredibly well-informed explanation of the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict. Mae is the executive d]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 218 &#8211; Alicia Akins</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[It was a pleasure to host Alicia Akins again on the podcast! If you missed her the first time around, I encourage you to go back and take a listen. This time, we chatted about her new book, The Gift of the Outsider. As someone who identifies as an outsider in many ways and in &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-218-alicia-akins/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 218 &#8211; Alicia Akins</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It was a pleasure to host Alicia Akins again on the podcast! If you missed her the first time around, I encourage you to go back and take a listen. This time, we chatted about her new book, The Gift of the Outsider. As someone who identifies as an outsid]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 217 &#8211; Shannan Martin</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthday the day we recorded this interview!) On the surface, it seems simple &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-217-shannan-martin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 217 &#8211; Shannan Martin</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I&#8217;ll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthd]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 216 &#8211; Phuc Luu</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 17:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[In the West, the Christian tradition we have inherited involves certain views of the God of the Bible and violence. It&#8217;s something many, if not most, of us have taken for granted in our discipleship. But what about the rich heritage of Christians in Eastern traditions? How do they teach and learn and experience God &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-216-phuc-luu/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 216 &#8211; Phuc Luu</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 215 &#8211; Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 22:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove&#8217;s 2019 release, Revolution of Values, is just as pertinent and applicable as it was when he was writing it. He had me from page 1! Jonathan presents that over the last several decades, white conservative Christians have framed certain issues as the main ones that warrant our concern to the neglect of others. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-215-jonathan-wilson-hartgrove/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 215 &#8211; Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 214 &#8211; Collin Cornell</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 00:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Collin Cornell is a professor of Bible and Mission at Fuller Theological Seminary. Our conversation for this episode is based on a forthcoming article by Collin that puts some question marks over the grand biblical narrative many of us have come to take for granted. For me, the topic of fellowship as it relates &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-214-collin-cornell/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 214 &#8211; Collin Cornell</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 213 &#8211; Scot McKnight</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2023 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Scot McKnight is on the podcast! His new release Revelation for the Rest of Us hit home for me. Turns out, Scot and I grew up in church communities that were teaching similar things about this mysterious book. The &#8220;literal&#8221; interpretations of Revelation often led to great (and scary!) speculations about what the end of &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-213-scot-mcknight/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 213 &#8211; Scot McKnight</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Scot McKnight is on the podcast! His new release Revelation for the Rest of Us hit home for me. Turns out, Scot and I grew up in church communities that were teaching similar things about this mysterious book. The &#8220;literal&#8221; interpretations of]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 212 &#8211; Dennis Edwards</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2023 19:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Dennis Edwards is back! If you missed our first conversation, be sure to go back and listen &#8211; you&#8217;ll be glad you did! This time we chatted about a book that was just released, edited by Dennis and Lisa Bowens called Do Black Lives Matter? In this conversation, we talk about a few of &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-212-dennis-edwards/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 212 &#8211; Dennis Edwards</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Dr. Dennis Edwards is back! If you missed our first conversation, be sure to go back and listen &#8211; you&#8217;ll be glad you did! This time we chatted about a book that was just released, edited by Dennis and Lisa Bowens called Do Black Lives Matter?]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 211 &#8211; Carmen Joy Imes</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 22:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Talking with professors is just about one of my favorite things to do (both on and off the podcast) and this conversation with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes definitely reinforced that joy for me! We chatted about her most recent book release, Being God&#8217;s Image. Literally, from Genesis to Revelation, Carmen writes on what it means &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-211-carmen-joy-imes/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 211 &#8211; Carmen Joy Imes</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Talking with professors is just about one of my favorite things to do (both on and off the podcast) and this conversation with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes definitely reinforced that joy for me! We chatted about her most recent book release, Being God&#8217;s Ima]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 210 &#8211; Andrew Whitehead</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 23:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this text is directed toward us &#8211; the lay Christian in America (don&#8217;t worry &#8211; there are still plenty &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-210-andrew-whitehead/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 210 &#8211; Andrew Whitehead</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Andrew Whitehead has researched and written extensively on Christian nationalism. His most recent book, American Idolatry, defines Christian nationalism and explains why it is so problematic. While he does have other academic resources on the topic, this]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 209 &#8211; Caroline Sumlin</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2023 21:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Caroline Sumlin&#8217;s new book, We&#8217;ll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how that translates to feelings of personal worth and well being? This conversation &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-209-caroline-sumlin/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 209 &#8211; Caroline Sumlin</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Caroline Sumlin&#8217;s new book, We&#8217;ll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 208 &#8211; Adam Bucko</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2023 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The contemplative life is not one solely reserved for vocational clergy or people from religious traditions that may feel largely unfamiliar. As Adam Bucko amazingly writes, practices, and encourages, contemplation is for each of us. With each page turned in his newest book, Let Heartbreak Be Your Guide, I felt my spiritual and theological imagination &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-208-adam-bucko/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 208 &#8211; Adam Bucko</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The contemplative life is not one solely reserved for vocational clergy or people from religious traditions that may feel largely unfamiliar. As Adam Bucko amazingly writes, practices, and encourages, contemplation is for each of us. With each page turne]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 207 &#8211; Martin Doblmeier</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[To say that the world (and us in it) are busy isn&#8217;t news. For centuries, some religious communities have found solace in the instruction to rest in the midst of busyness. Filmmaker, Martin Doblmeier, has captured some of these traditions in his newest film by Journey Films, Sabbath. In this project, Jewish and Christian scholars &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-207-martin-doblmeier/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 207 &#8211; Martin Doblmeier</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 206 &#8211; Kate Boyd</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2023 23:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so stoked to have Kate Boyd on the podcast! For anyone who is curious about the word &#8220;deconstruction,&#8221; is going through it, or knows someone who is &#8211; this conversation is for you! While Kate&#8217;s story of faith and mine have some overlap (primarily in the Bible Belt experiences), hers also includes interacting &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-206-kate-boyd/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 206 &#8211; Kate Boyd</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so stoked to have Kate Boyd on the podcast! For anyone who is curious about the word &#8220;deconstruction,&#8221; is going through it, or knows someone who is &#8211; this conversation is for you! While Kate&#8217;s story of faith and mine have som]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 205 &#8211; Karen Swallow Prior</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 00:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Even though the student in me was initially a bit nervous (she is an English professor after all!), I had an absolute blast talking with Karen Swallow Prior for this episode! Her newest book, and our conversation, explore the question of what is biblical/Christian versus what is just Victorian, specifically in the evangelical context. Who &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-205-karen-swallow-prior/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 205 &#8211; Karen Swallow Prior</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 204 &#8211; Kaitlyn Schiess</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2023 00:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t tell you how excited I am to have Kaitlyn Schiess BACK on the podcast! (She was here for on Ep. 063 discussing her first book.) Her latest book, The Ballot and the Bible highlights how the Bible has been utilized in politics, for better or worse, over the course of our nation&#8217;s history. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-204-kaitlyn-schiess/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 204 &#8211; Kaitlyn Schiess</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t tell you how excited I am to have Kaitlyn Schiess BACK on the podcast! (She was here for on Ep. 063 discussing her first book.) Her latest book, The Ballot and the Bible highlights how the Bible has been utilized in politics, for better or ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 203 &#8211; Ally Henny</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[My guest this week is no stranger to the mic &#8211; Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally&#8217;s book, I Won&#8217;t Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her experiences and what she has learned about the world, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/ep-203-ally-henny/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 203 &#8211; Ally Henny</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[My guest this week is no stranger to the mic &#8211; Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally&#8217;s book, I Won&#8217;t Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her exp]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 202 &#8211; John Blake</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[CNN journalist John Blake is on the podcast! His newest book, More Than I Imagined, tells his personal story. John is bi-racial, the son of a Black father and a White mother he grew up not knowing anything about. For a man who has been reporting on race for decades (and by his own admission &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-202-john-blake/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 202 &#8211; John Blake</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 201 &#8211; Terence Lester</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2023 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we&#8217;ve got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someone who was unhoused for a season and his work for over &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-201-terence-lester/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 201 &#8211; Terence Lester</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we&#8217;ve got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someon]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 200 &#8211; Jack Sara</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Jack Sara is the President of Bethlehem Bible College. I met Jack on what was my 8th (?) trip to the Holy Land, but only my first trip to Palestine. If you think about it (and we mention it a bit in the episode), that fact alone is pretty remarkable. That someone could &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-200-jack-sara/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 200 &#8211; Jack Sara</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 199 &#8211; Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 10:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[You know that feeling when you&#8217;ve been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun&#8217;s new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, Dorcas helps those of us who might be Highly Sensitive People &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-199-dorcas-cheng-tozun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 199 &#8211; Dorcas Cheng-Tozun</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[You know that feeling when you&#8217;ve been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun&#8217;s new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 198 &#8211; Jen Rosner</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2023 23:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich lens with which to view her faith and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-198-jen-rosner/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 198 &#8211; Jen Rosner</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It is always a joy to welcome one of my professors to the podcast! This conversation with Jen Rosner was a true gem. Jen is a Messianic Jewish believer, which means she is Jewish and follows Jesus as her Messiah. Her unique perspective gives her a rich l]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 197 &#8211; Alexis Busetti</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2023 20:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Just a short little sermon on the center part of the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus gives us quite a few &#8220;do not&#8221; statements on giving, praying, and fasting. Thankfully, he doesn&#8217;t leave the discussion there though. Because he&#8217;s a good teacher, he also gives us some &#8220;how to&#8221; examples. There&#8217;s also talk of &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-197-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 197 &#8211; Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 196 &#8211; Jon Ward</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2023 00:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Jon Ward is a journalist who has spent the last twenty years covering American politics. He&#8217;s also a Christian. And, like so many of us, he was raised in the evangelical culture that is continuing to supply ample obstacles in the terrain as we seek to navigate questions of faith and life. Jon writes about &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-196-jon-ward/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 196 &#8211; Jon Ward</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 195 &#8211; Tasha Jun</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2023 00:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I had a fabulous time talking with Tasha Jun! She has written an incredible memoir called Tell Me the Dream Again. Tasha&#8217;s experiences as a biracial woman often made a challenge, including in Christian spaces. As you&#8217;ll hear in our conversation, as a mixed Hispanic woman, I can totally relate to much of what Tasha &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-195-tasha-jun/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 195 &#8211; Tasha Jun</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I had a fabulous time talking with Tasha Jun! She has written an incredible memoir called Tell Me the Dream Again. Tasha&#8217;s experiences as a biracial woman often made a challenge, including in Christian spaces. As you&#8217;ll hear in our conversati]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 194 &#8211; David Taylor</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2023 11:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[It was such a joy to speak with Dr. David Taylor! Every time I get to speak with him (he&#8217;s a professor at Fuller, btw), I come away feeling encouraged in the Lord and ready to explore some new way of interacting with my own faith. This conversation was no different! We talked about his &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-194-david-taylor/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 194 &#8211; David Taylor</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It was such a joy to speak with Dr. David Taylor! Every time I get to speak with him (he&#8217;s a professor at Fuller, btw), I come away feeling encouraged in the Lord and ready to explore some new way of interacting with my own faith. This conversation]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 193 &#8211; Robert Chao Romero</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2023 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you&#8217;ll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-193-robert-chao-romero/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 193 &#8211; Robert Chao Romero</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you&#8217;ll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As ref]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 192 &#8211; David Lamb</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. David Lamb is a biblical scholar and professor at Missio Seminary. His most recent book, The Emotions of God, is the topic of our discussion for this episode. As noted in the brief intro to our conversation, there are places where David and I don&#8217;t see eye to eye and that&#8217;s okay. The subjects &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-192-david-lamb/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 192 &#8211; David Lamb</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Dr. David Lamb is a biblical scholar and professor at Missio Seminary. His most recent book, The Emotions of God, is the topic of our discussion for this episode. As noted in the brief intro to our conversation, there are places where David and I don&#82]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 191 &#8211; Alexis Busetti</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2023 00:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Happy Resurrection Day! Thanks for joining me as I offer a short homily on Luke 24:1-12. This is one of the gospel passages that describes the women and the other disciples&#8217; discovery that the tomb where they expected to find Jesus was empty on Sunday morning! If you&#8217;ve ever been left like them, wondering what &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-191-alexis-busetti/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 191 &#8211; Alexis Busetti</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Happy Resurrection Day! Thanks for joining me as I offer a short homily on Luke 24:1-12. This is one of the gospel passages that describes the women and the other disciples&#8217; discovery that the tomb where they expected to find Jesus was empty on Sun]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 190 &#8211; Lyndsey Medford</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2023 01:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[One of the areas I have found myself exploring more in the past few years is the theology of disability. What does it mean to be embodied? What does it look like when we come to terms with the fact that most of us will face disability in our lifetimes? How do we experience God &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-190-lyndsey-medford/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 190 &#8211; Lyndsey Medford</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[One of the areas I have found myself exploring more in the past few years is the theology of disability. What does it mean to be embodied? What does it look like when we come to terms with the fact that most of us will face disability in our lifetimes? H]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 189 &#8211; Nijay Gupta</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation had me feeling both excited and a bit nervous. Nijay Gupta, who is gracious in every way, has written a new book on the ministry of women in the early church and historically, this subject has been a sensitive one for me. Maybe like you, I was discipled in a tradition that held &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-189-nijay-gupta/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 189 &#8211; Nijay Gupta</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation had me feeling both excited and a bit nervous. Nijay Gupta, who is gracious in every way, has written a new book on the ministry of women in the early church and historically, this subject has been a sensitive one for me. Maybe like you]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 188 &#8211; Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2023 01:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for Reebok’s United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-188-jasmine-bellamy-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 188 &#8211; Jasmine Bellamy (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[In 2021, my amazing friend, Jasmine Bellamy, was named in Sports Illustrated’s series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and as the Head of Change Management for]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 187 &#8211; Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Natalia Kohn Rivera&#160;is a pastor with InterVarsity’s LeFe ministry and co-author of&#160;Hermanas. This beautiful book takes the journeys of 12 biblical women and explores them through the lenses of Latina women. In this conversation, Natalia and I discuss the importance of our ethnic identities and our faith as well as what it means to see &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-187-natalia-kohn-rivera-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 187 &#8211; Natalia Kohn Rivera (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 186 &#8211; Caryn Reeder</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2023 01:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Reading Caryn Reeder&#8216;s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels &#8211; The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpretation of the story, which has remained much the same throughout history, and examines how it &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-186-caryn-reeder/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 186 &#8211; Caryn Reeder</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Reading Caryn Reeder&#8216;s new book had me feeling mad, relieved, curious, and hopeful. She explores one of my all-time favorite stories in the Gospels &#8211; The Samaritan Woman in John 4. Caryn reminds readers and listeners of the classic interpreta]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 185 &#8211; Kyle Meyaard-Schaap</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2023 01:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that largely did not encourage Christians to care about the environment. But &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-185-kyle-meyaard-schaap/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 185 &#8211; Kyle Meyaard-Schaap</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[A conversation on climate change straight from Texas! I am so grateful to Kyle Meyaard-Schaap for joining me on the podcast and for writing his awesome new book, Following Jesus in a Warming World. Like Kyle, I grew up inside a cultural context that larg]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 184 &#8211; Drew Jackson</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-184-drew-jackson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 184 &#8211; Drew Jackson</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its fines]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 183 &#8211; Bekah McNeel</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2023 02:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she&#8217;s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you&#8217;re not a parent&#8230;.don&#8217;t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conversation is for anyone whose life and faith have been impacted by the church, &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-183-bekah-mcneel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 183 &#8211; Bekah McNeel</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Bekah and I had a fabulous conversation (she&#8217;s hilarious, btw!) about her book Bringing Up Kids When the Church Lets You Down. But trust me, if you&#8217;re not a parent&#8230;.don&#8217;t flip to the next episode in your queue just yet! This conve]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 182 &#8211; Jenny Booth Potter</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 00:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny&#8217;s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-182-jenny-booth-potter/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 182 &#8211; Jenny Booth Potter</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny&#8217;s story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She br]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 181 &#8211; Craig Greenfield</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 23:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I&#8217;ve been processing lately &#8211; missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Western missionary work has often equaled colonialism, and we need to be aware of how we still &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-181-craig-greenfield/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 181 &#8211; Craig Greenfield</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Craig Greenfield joins me on the podcast to talk about something I&#8217;ve been processing lately &#8211; missions. Specifically, Craig has written a book called Subversive Mission on how to serve well as outsiders. In the history of Christianity, Weste]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 180 &#8211; Sara Billups</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it&#8217;s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980&#8217;s and 1990&#8217;s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we chat) about how she was shaped by teachings on the end &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-180-sara-billups/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 180 &#8211; Sara Billups</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[The story Sara Billups shares in Orphaned Believers is her own and in a way, it&#8217;s mine too. It might also be yours if you were a child of the 1980&#8217;s and 1990&#8217;s growing up anywhere near white American evangelicalism. She writes (and we c]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 179 &#8211; Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 13:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author&#160;Ashlee Eiland&#160;and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-179-ashlee-eiland-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 179 &#8211; Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author&#160;Ashlee Eiland&#160;and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible C]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 178 &#8211; Beth Birmingham &#038; Eeva Sallinen Simard</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2023 23:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of their commitment in these spaces that they are doing everything they can to &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-178-beth-birmingham-eeva-sallinen-simard/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 178 &#8211; Beth Birmingham &#038; Eeva Sallinen Simard</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[It&#8217;s not every day that so much wisdom and experience is found in one place, but today is that day! Beth Birmingham and Eeva Sallinen Simard have decades of combined experience in working in and with faith-based organizations. It is because of thei]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 177 &#8211; Michelle Ferrigno Warren</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2023 21:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re back with a brand-new episode to begin the new year! Michelle Ferrigno Warren has been involved in justice work for decades and her wisdom is priceless. In her newest book, Join the Resistance, she speaks to those of us who are interested in becoming more involved, but may not know exactly where to start. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-177-michelle-ferrigno-warren/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 177 &#8211; Michelle Ferrigno Warren</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 176 &#8211; Sarah Quezada (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2022 15:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God&#8217;s kingdom. Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-176-sarah-quezada-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 176 &#8211; Sarah Quezada (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[On this day after Christmas, I am so excited to bring you this re-release from December 20, 2021. This beautiful conversation with Sarah Quezada reminds us of the many ways we live in the tension of the now and not yet as citizens of God&#8217;s kingdom.]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 175 &#8211; Scott Erickson (re-release!)</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps bring the season a little closer to home &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-175-scott-erickson-re-release/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 175 &#8211; Scott Erickson (re-release!)</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This episode originally aired on October 19, 2020. (This statement is as true in 2022 as it was in 2020!) Advent couldn’t come soon enough for me this year; and I don’t think I’m alone! Scott Erickson (known to many of us as Scott the Painter) helps brin]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 174 &#8211; Kelley Nikondeha</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha&#8216;s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus&#8217; birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-174-kelly-nikondeha/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 174 &#8211; Kelley Nikondeha</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha&#8216;s words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 173 &#8211; Kelly Flanagan</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 01:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Generally speaking, I am *not* a novel-reading, fiction-loving kind of girl, but&#8230;.I loved Kelly Flanagan&#8217;s new release The Unhiding of Elijah Campbell! And, I am so thrilled to welcome Kelly back to the podcast. He first came on to speak about his book, True Companions which was a game-changer for me as well. Kelly is &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-173-kelly-flanagan/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 173 &#8211; Kelly Flanagan</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Generally speaking, I am *not* a novel-reading, fiction-loving kind of girl, but&#8230;.I loved Kelly Flanagan&#8217;s new release The Unhiding of Elijah Campbell! And, I am so thrilled to welcome Kelly back to the podcast. He first came on to speak abou]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 172 &#8211; Marlena Graves</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Three words at the top of Marlena Grave&#8216;s website sum it up: Jesus. Formation. Justice. These are the foci of what she does as a writer, professor, thinker, mother, wife, community activist, advocate, speaker, and so much more. She and her husband, Shawn, have co-edited a book along those lines called The Gospel of Peace &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-172-marlena-graves/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 172 &#8211; Marlena Graves</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Three words at the top of Marlena Grave&#8216;s website sum it up: Jesus. Formation. Justice. These are the foci of what she does as a writer, professor, thinker, mother, wife, community activist, advocate, speaker, and so much more. She and her husband,]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 171 &#8211; Josh Buck</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2022 03:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Josh Buck is back on the podcast! The last time Josh joined me, he shared about his dissertation research into the Charleston Massacre. He also let us know he had a book set to release and now it&#8217;s here! When I began reading Everyday Activism, I surprised myself at how many dog-eared pages and underlined &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-171-josh-buck/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 171 &#8211; Josh Buck</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Josh Buck is back on the podcast! The last time Josh joined me, he shared about his dissertation research into the Charleston Massacre. He also let us know he had a book set to release and now it&#8217;s here! When I began reading Everyday Activism, I su]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 170 &#8211; Blaine Hogan</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2022 00:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Blaine Hogan writes, acts, directs, and was formerly on staff at a megachurch. He has also honored us in writing a book holding his deepest, darkest secrets and allowing us to learn from his experiences and reflections. In this conversation, we talk about the hard work of healing, recovery, and ministry in the midst of &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-170-blaine-hogan/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 170 &#8211; Blaine Hogan</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Blaine Hogan writes, acts, directs, and was formerly on staff at a megachurch. He has also honored us in writing a book holding his deepest, darkest secrets and allowing us to learn from his experiences and reflections. In this conversation, we talk abou]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 169 &#8211; Soong-Chan Rah</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Soong-Chan Rah is a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary (I took a course with him and it was a total blast!). He has also served in ministry as a pastor and studied American Evangelicalism. One of the topics Soong-Chan is known for is the church and social justice. In Return to Justice, he explores the &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-169-soong-chan-rah/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 169 &#8211; Soong-Chan Rah</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Soong-Chan Rah is a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary (I took a course with him and it was a total blast!). He has also served in ministry as a pastor and studied American Evangelicalism. One of the topics Soong-Chan is known for is the church and]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 168 &#8211; Bob Smietana</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 20:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;ve read anything from the Religion News Service, chances are you&#8217;ve already been introduced to Bob Smietana. Bob is a journalist and author of the book Reorganized Religion. Politics, demographics, and lifestyle are all affecting our churches and how they look and feel in America. In this episode, we talk about organized religion, American &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-168-bob-smietana/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 168 &#8211; Bob Smietana</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 167 &#8211; Jim Wallis</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2022 01:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[The one and only Jim Wallis is on the podcast! Most recently Jim came on as the director of the Center on Faith + Justice at Georgetown University. He and I met over the summer when the Center hosted its inaugural summer academy and I was blessed enough to attend. For those who may not &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-167-jim-wallis/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 167 &#8211; Jim Wallis</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 166 &#8211; Jennifer Tucker</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[It was only a few years ago that I was introduced to breath prayers. In the beginning of the pandemic, Osheta Moore, spiritual director and pastor, hosted morning times of Scripture-reading and breath prayers and these practices were so much of what kept me during those times. Now, we have another resource to encourage us &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-166-jennifer-tucker/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 166 &#8211; Jennifer Tucker</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 165 &#8211; Jasmin Shupper</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2022 00:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Jasmin Shupper is the founder and president of Greenline Housing Foundation. Educated in business and a licensed realtor, Jasmin has always been fascinated by and drawn to homes. She is aware though, that due to our country&#8217;s intentional legislation and policies, people of color have consistently and systemically been denied the opportunity to participate in &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-165-jasmin-shupper/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 165 &#8211; Jasmin Shupper</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Jasmin Shupper is the founder and president of Greenline Housing Foundation. Educated in business and a licensed realtor, Jasmin has always been fascinated by and drawn to homes. She is aware though, that due to our country&#8217;s intentional legislatio]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 164 &#8211; Don Schoendorfer</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2022 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Don Shoendorfer is a biomedical engineer with a PhD from MIT and the founder of Free Wheelchair Mission. Part of what I *love* about Don&#8217;s story is that he utilized the skills God had already given him to help people with a profound problem &#8211; immobility caused by disability. As you&#8217;ll hear, Don didn&#8217;t set &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-164-don-schoendorfer/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 164 &#8211; Don Schoendorfer</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 163 &#8211; Kat Armas</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[In honor of Hispanic Heritage Month, we are re-playing this amazing episode with Kat Armas. Enjoy! Kat Armas, author of&#160;Abuelita Faith: What Women on the Margins Teach Us about Wisdom, Persistence, and Strength, is on the podcast this week! Kat is a&#160;Fuller&#160;grad, on her way to&#160;Vanderbilt Divinity School, and is a wrestler in the faith. &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-163-kat-armas/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 163 &#8211; Kat Armas</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[In honor of Hispanic Heritage Month, we are re-playing this amazing episode with Kat Armas. Enjoy! Kat Armas, author of&#160;Abuelita Faith: What Women on the Margins Teach Us about Wisdom, Persistence, and Strength, is on the podcast this week! Kat is a]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 162 &#8211; Karen González</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am so delighted to welcome Karen González back on the podcast! Her new book, Beyond Welcome, is a beautiful combination of biblical investigation, personal narrative, and the edification we need, especially in the United States, today. We hit the current news right away, with talk of Florida and Texas governors flying and bussing immigrants &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-162-karen-gonzalez/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 162 &#8211; Karen González</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[I am so delighted to welcome Karen González back on the podcast! Her new book, Beyond Welcome, is a beautiful combination of biblical investigation, personal narrative, and the edification we need, especially in the United States, today. We hit the curre]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 161 &#8211; Phil Allen, Jr.</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2022 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[My friend Phil is back! Phil Allen has written a second book and it is incredible! The Prophetic Lens takes us back in history to the infamous racist film shown at the White House all the way through the Civil Rights movement of the 1960&#8217;s to Darnell Frazier&#8217;s courageous capturing and posting of George Floyd&#8217;s &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-161-phil-allen-jr/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 161 &#8211; Phil Allen, Jr.</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[My friend Phil is back! Phil Allen has written a second book and it is incredible! The Prophetic Lens takes us back in history to the infamous racist film shown at the White House all the way through the Civil Rights movement of the 1960&#8217;s to Darne]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 160 &#8211; Scott Sunquist</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2022 12:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Scott Sunquist and I just missed crossing each other&#8217;s paths at Fuller Theological Seminary. Shortly before I registered as a student, Scott wrapped up his time as the Dean of Intercultural Studies at Fuller where he also was a professor of church history. Now, Scott serves as president of Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary where he &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-160-scott-sunquist/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 160 &#8211; Scott Sunquist</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Scott Sunquist and I just missed crossing each other&#8217;s paths at Fuller Theological Seminary. Shortly before I registered as a student, Scott wrapped up his time as the Dean of Intercultural Studies at Fuller where he also was a professor of church ]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 159 &#8211; Steven Harris</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2022 14:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
	<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexis Busetti]]></dc:creator>
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	<description><![CDATA[Steven Harris has a resume that could fill this screen, including positions at prestigious institutions you may recognize like Harvard and Georgetown, but I was first introduced to him as the guy who helped my friends and I carry our luggage after a late-night flight to D.C. As the Senior Director of Academic Programs at &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-159-steven-harris/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 159 &#8211; Steven Harris</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Steven Harris has a resume that could fill this screen, including positions at prestigious institutions you may recognize like Harvard and Georgetown, but I was first introduced to him as the guy who helped my friends and I carry our luggage after a late]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 158 &#8211; Christina Edmonson</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 01:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[My guest for this incredible episode is none other than Dr. Christina Edmonson of the Truth&#8217;s Table podcast! Some of my all-time favorite interviews come from conversations with podcasters, but this one just may take the cake! Christina joined me to talk about the new book she co-wrote with researcher Chad Brennan, Faithful Anti-Racism. What &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-158-with-christina-edmonson/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 158 &#8211; Christina Edmonson</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 157 &#8211; Sabrina Chan &#038; Linson Daniel</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2022 23:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[What a joy to speak with Sabrina Chan and Linson Daniel about Learning Our Names! This new book was written along with their co-authors E. David de Leon and La Thao all about Asian American Christian identity. As we discussed in the podcast, the title is a double meaning &#8211; while the work was written &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-157-sabrina-chan-linson-daniel/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 157 &#8211; Sabrina Chan &#038; Linson Daniel</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 156 &#8211; Amy Sherman</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2022 14:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Amy Sherman, Senior Fellow at the Sagamore Institute, has written an exquisite book called Agents of Flourishing. Looking at the biblical mandate for believers to seek the flourishing of our communities, Amy delves into half a dozen endowments, think areas or spheres, where we can focus our energies to contribute to that happening. Each section &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-156-amy-sherman/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 156 &#8211; Amy Sherman</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 155 &#8211; Sandra Maria Van Opstal</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2022 14:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[What a joy to speak with Sandra Van Opstal again for the podcast! This time we talked about her timeless book that&#8217;s getting a new release, The Next Worship. Originally published in 2016, this message is as relevant for the church today as it was when it first appeared in bookstores (in some ways, maybe &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-155-sandra-maria-van-opstal/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 155 &#8211; Sandra Maria Van Opstal</span></a>]]></description>
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	<title>Episode 154 &#8211; Dr. Dwight Radcliff</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2022 00:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). Last term, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don&#8217;t say that lightly!). As Christians, not just those of training &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-154-dr-dwight-radcliff/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 154 &#8211; Dr. Dwight Radcliff</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[Dr. Dwight Radcliff is the academic dean for the William E. Pannell Center for Black Church Studies at Fuller Seminary (and one of my favorite professors!). Last term, I took his class on the Theology of Hip Hop Culture and it was life-altering (I don&#8]]></itunes:subtitle>
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	<title>Episode 153 &#8211; Lamar Hardwick</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2022 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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	<description><![CDATA[This is a re-release of an incredible conversation I had with pastor Lamar Hardwick in February of 2021. In honor of Disability Pride Month, I wanted to share this episode again because Lamar&#8217;s work in this space challenged me in my theology like nothing else had until that point. Lamar Hardwick, aka&#160;The Autism Pastor, is &#8230; <a href="https://thatmakestotalsense.com/podcast/episode-153-lamar-hardwick/" class="more-link">Continue reading <span class="screen-reader-text">Episode 153 &#8211; Lamar Hardwick</span></a>]]></description>
	<itunes:subtitle><![CDATA[This is a re-release of an incredible conversation I had with pastor Lamar Hardwick in February of 2021. In honor of Disability Pride Month, I wanted to share this episode again because Lamar&#8217;s work in this space challenged me in my theology like n]]></itunes:subtitle>
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