I'll take any excuse I can get to talk with Shannan Martin! This time we chatted about her most recent book release, Start With Hello, about being neighbors. (Last time we chatted about her first book, Falling Free, which celebrated its book birthday the day we recorded this interview!) On the surface, it seems simple … Continue reading Episode 217 – Shannan Martin
Episode 215 – Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove
Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove's 2019 release, Revolution of Values, is just as pertinent and applicable as it was when he was writing it. He had me from page 1! Jonathan presents that over the last several decades, white conservative Christians have framed certain issues as the main ones that warrant our concern to the neglect of others. … Continue reading Episode 215 – Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove
Episode 209 – Caroline Sumlin
Caroline Sumlin's new book, We'll All Be Free exposes how white supremacy affects everyone in its wake (by the way, that means all of us). White supremacy is interwoven into our society at a systemic level, but have you ever thought about how that translates to feelings of personal worth and well being? This conversation … Continue reading Episode 209 – Caroline Sumlin
Episode 203 – Ally Henny
My guest this week is no stranger to the mic - Ally Henny is on the podcast! Ally's book, I Won't Shut Up, is incredible and I am so grateful for her generosity to share her story. Written with Black women in mind, Ally recounts her experiences and what she has learned about the world, … Continue reading Episode 203 – Ally Henny
Episode 201 – Terence Lester
I am so thrilled to have the newly declared Dr. Terence Lester back on the podcast (if you missed his first episode, we've got you covered!). Terence has written a beautiful book on racial solidarity through the lens of his own experience as someone who was unhoused for a season and his work for over … Continue reading Episode 201 – Terence Lester
Episode 199 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun
You know that feeling when you've been able to sense something for a while and then someone gives you language for that thing? This is exactly what happened to me when I read Dorcas Cheng-Tozun's new book! In Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul, Dorcas helps those of us who might be Highly Sensitive People … Continue reading Episode 199 – Dorcas Cheng-Tozun
Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero
Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you'll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter … Continue reading Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero
Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)
This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … Continue reading Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)
Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha
This advent book (and conversation!) is not just for the Christmas season. I promise you will be blessed by Kelley Nikondeha's words all year long! Her new book, The First Advent in Palestine tells of some of the forgotten stories surrounding Jesus' birth. We know he was born in first century occupied Palestine, but what … Continue reading Episode 174 – Kelley Nikondeha
Episode 172 – Marlena Graves
Three words at the top of Marlena Grave's website sum it up: Jesus. Formation. Justice. These are the foci of what she does as a writer, professor, thinker, mother, wife, community activist, advocate, speaker, and so much more. She and her husband, Shawn, have co-edited a book along those lines called The Gospel of Peace … Continue reading Episode 172 – Marlena Graves
Episode 169 – Soong-Chan Rah
Soong-Chan Rah is a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary (I took a course with him and it was a total blast!). He has also served in ministry as a pastor and studied American Evangelicalism. One of the topics Soong-Chan is known for is the church and social justice. In Return to Justice, he explores the … Continue reading Episode 169 – Soong-Chan Rah
Episode 168 – Bob Smietana
If you've read anything from the Religion News Service, chances are you've already been introduced to Bob Smietana. Bob is a journalist and author of the book Reorganized Religion. Politics, demographics, and lifestyle are all affecting our churches and how they look and feel in America. In this episode, we talk about organized religion, American … Continue reading Episode 168 – Bob Smietana
Episode 167 – Jim Wallis
The one and only Jim Wallis is on the podcast! Most recently Jim came on as the director of the Center on Faith + Justice at Georgetown University. He and I met over the summer when the Center hosted its inaugural summer academy and I was blessed enough to attend. For those who may not … Continue reading Episode 167 – Jim Wallis
Episode 165 – Jasmin Shupper
Jasmin Shupper is the founder and president of Greenline Housing Foundation. Educated in business and a licensed realtor, Jasmin has always been fascinated by and drawn to homes. She is aware though, that due to our country's intentional legislation and policies, people of color have consistently and systemically been denied the opportunity to participate in … Continue reading Episode 165 – Jasmin Shupper
Episode 162 – Karen González
I am so delighted to welcome Karen González back on the podcast! Her new book, Beyond Welcome, is a beautiful combination of biblical investigation, personal narrative, and the edification we need, especially in the United States, today. We hit the current news right away, with talk of Florida and Texas governors flying and bussing immigrants … Continue reading Episode 162 – Karen González
Episode 159 – Steven Harris
Steven Harris has a resume that could fill this screen, including positions at prestigious institutions you may recognize like Harvard and Georgetown, but I was first introduced to him as the guy who helped my friends and I carry our luggage after a late-night flight to D.C. As the Senior Director of Academic Programs at … Continue reading Episode 159 – Steven Harris
Episode 155 – Sandra Maria Van Opstal
What a joy to speak with Sandra Van Opstal again for the podcast! This time we talked about her timeless book that's getting a new release, The Next Worship. Originally published in 2016, this message is as relevant for the church today as it was when it first appeared in bookstores (in some ways, maybe … Continue reading Episode 155 – Sandra Maria Van Opstal
Episode 152 – Phil Allen, Jr.
To say I am moved by this conversation and project by Phil Allen, Jr. would be an understatement. Phil Allen, Jr. is an author, speaker, filmmaker, PhD candidate, friend, and incredibly generous advocate. When, as an adult, he first heard the truth about his grandfather's tragic death that took place in 1953, he knew the … Continue reading Episode 152 – Phil Allen, Jr.
Episode 149 – Andre Henry
I always love it when I get to interview someone associated with Fuller Seminary and this conversation with Andre Henry is definitely no exception! Andre is a musician, artist, activist, and author of All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep. We cover a lot of ground in this episode, but some of the highlights for … Continue reading Episode 149 – Andre Henry
Episode 147 – Amy Kenny
Amy Kenny is a disabled scholar and author of the new book, My Body Is Not a Prayer Request. I am incredibly thankful for Amy and her voice on disability, diversity, and justice in the church. From "prayerful perpetrators," to ableism, to designing spaces for disabled people actually being the more inclusive way, we covered … Continue reading Episode 147 – Amy Kenny
Episode 143 – J.W. Buck
J.W. (Josh) Buck is the Executive Director and one of the founders of Pax, a Christian organization designed to inspire and equip the next generation through slow, beautiful, Jesus-centered content created by people of color. While his first book is available for pre-order now (!), in this interview, we focused on his dissertation work on the … Continue reading Episode 143 – J.W. Buck
Episode 142 – Idelette McVicker
Idelette McVicker is a native of South Africa, currently living in Canada with her family, and ministering to Christians like me (in America and globally) on how to fight against white supremacy in our societies. She is the author of Recovering Racists, the founder of She Loves Media Society, and the Dangerous Women community. In … Continue reading Episode 142 – Idelette McVicker
Episode 141 – Stephen Mattson
For the past couple of months, I have been reading my way through an incredible book in my morning prayer time, On Love & Mercy: A Social Justice Devotional. In this beautiful work, Stephen Mattson takes the time to define social justice for Christians and touches on dozens of areas where our attention is needed. … Continue reading Episode 141 – Stephen Mattson
Episode 138 – Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley
On March 29, 2022, President Biden signed into law the "Emmett Till Antilynching Act." While this is historic, it is also over 100 years and 200 failed votes in the making. There are mixed emotions following the bill's unanimous passing in the Senate and in light of the moment, I'm taking this opportunity to re-air … Continue reading Episode 138 – Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley
Episode 137 – Amy Julia Becker
Writer, author, and speaker Amy Julia Becker is on the podcast this week talking about healing. Her new book, To Be Made Well is a beautiful reflection on the nature of, barriers to, and how we can participate with God in healing, both our own and that of the people around us. Threading through her … Continue reading Episode 137 – Amy Julia Becker
Episode 136 – Shane Blackshear
Shane Blackshear is the host of Seminary Dropout podcast and the author of a new book full of wisdom from the life of civil rights leader and co-author John Perkins. Go and Do is a wonderful mingling of stories from the lives of John and Shane as well as practical, solid content to help us … Continue reading Episode 136 – Shane Blackshear
Episode 134 – Paul Zach
Paul Zach is a music minister who loves writing music for the church to sing. And I, for one, love singing his music! Full time, Paul serves at Christ Episcopal Church in Charlottesville, Virginia. He also collaborates with other artists, musicians, and song writers for projects like those released by The Porter's Gate. In this … Continue reading Episode 134 – Paul Zach
Episode 133 – Michelle Clifton-Soderstrom
Michelle Clifton-Soderstrom is the Dean of Faculty and a professor of theology and ethics at North Park Seminary. She is also the Director of the School of Restorative Arts, which is the primary topic in this episode. The School of Restorative Arts is located inside Stateville Correctional Center outside of Chicago and offers a master's … Continue reading Episode 133 – Michelle Clifton-Soderstrom
Episode 132 – Dennis Edwards
Dr. Dennis Edwards, professor of New Testament at North Park Seminary in Chicago, is on the podcast! His book, Might From the Margins, specifically addresses and encourages Christians who have found themselves marginalized within American Evangelicalism, including Christians of color and women. One of the things I appreciate most about this text and conversation is … Continue reading Episode 132 – Dennis Edwards
Episode 131 – Young-Sam Won
Dr. Young-Sam Won is the Associate Director of Ministry Formation and an Adjunct Professor of Old Testament at Dallas Theological Seminary. He's also a hoot to follow on Twitter! Sam loves to explore the topics of justice and ethnicity from a biblical (specifically Old Testament) perspective and I am here for it. In this conversation, … Continue reading Episode 131 – Young-Sam Won
Episode 130 – David Swanson
David Swanson is back on the podcast! David is the pastor of New Community Covenant Church in Chicago, the author of Rediscipling the White Church, and regularly speaks and writes on matters of racial justice and reconciliation. The last time David and I recorded was in October of 2020 and as you know a lot … Continue reading Episode 130 – David Swanson
Episode 127 – Sandra Maria Van Opstal
You do not have to be an Enneagram 8 (or even know what the Enneagram is) to enjoy this episode! Sandra Maria Van Opstal has written an incredible devotional as part of a series published by InterVarsity Press called Forty Days on Being an Eight. The point of our conversation in this episode was not … Continue reading Episode 127 – Sandra Maria Van Opstal
Episode 123 – Sarah Quezada
Sarah Quezada, author of Love Undocumented joins me on the podcast this week! With Christmas coming, what better way to begin our week than with a story from the beautiful tradition of Las Posadas? If you're not familiar, it is a Latin American Christmas tradition where friends, family, and neighbors reenact Mary and Joseph looking … Continue reading Episode 123 – Sarah Quezada
Episode 121 – Mae Elise Cannon
Welcome back to the podcast, Mae Cannon! Mae and I last spoke when her most recent book, Beyond Hashtag Activism, released and I knew then I wanted to have her back. This time she talks peace and politics in the Middle East. As far as knowledge and activism are concerned, Mae and the organization she … Continue reading Episode 121 – Mae Elise Cannon
Episode 120 – Cindy Wu
My guest this week is fellow Houstonian, Cindy Wu, Program Manager with Houston Welcomes Refugees. Cindy studied at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and has written an incredible workbook for believers looking to expand their practical theology on the topic of refugees called A Better Country. Cindy's passion for serving refugees was birthed in her at a … Continue reading Episode 120 – Cindy Wu
Episode 118 – Matthew Soerens
Matthew Soerens of World Relief and the Evangelical Immigration Table joins me today on the podcast to talk about immigration from a biblical perspective. Welcoming the Stranger, one of the books Matt co-authored on the subject, was recently released in a revised and updated edition in order to stay current with the laws and policies … Continue reading Episode 118 – Matthew Soerens
Episode 116 – Jasmine Bellamy
Jasmine Bellamy, was just named in Sports Illustrated's series Elle-evate: 100 Influential Black Women in Sports! She works with Reebok as the lead for the U.S. Direct to Consumer department and most recently as the Head of Change Management for Reebok's United Against Racism. In that role, Jasmine has initiated Courageous Conversations as a way … Continue reading Episode 116 – Jasmine Bellamy
Episode 110 – Drew Jackson
Drew Jackson is a pastor in NYC, the president of Pax, and author of God Speaks Through Wombs: Poems on God's Unexpected Coming. This book is a beautiful journey through the first eight chapters of the Gospel of Luke in poetic form. Drew captures the humanity of Jesus in these pages: his marginalization, his incarnation, … Continue reading Episode 110 – Drew Jackson
Episode 109 – Dominique Gilliard
Get ready for round 2 with Dominique Gilliard! You might remember, Dominique was on the podcast just a couple of months ago talking about his first book, Rethinking Incarceration. That award-winning title came out in 2018 and now he brings us his newest project, Subversive Witness: Scripture's Call to Leverage Privilege. This book is all … Continue reading Episode 109 – Dominique Gilliard
Episode 108 – Vince Bantu
Dr. Vince Bantu is an associate professor at Fuller Seminary (whoop!) and the director at Meachum School of Haymanot. Vince's areas of missiological interest and academic research focus on Christianity as a global religion. Not in the sense, as some scholars proclaim, that Christianity is becoming a global religion, but rooted in the fact that … Continue reading Episode 108 – Vince Bantu
Episode 107 – A Word on Lament
These last few weeks have been hard in the world. Catching up on international and local news reveals heartache at almost every turn. I'm praying as Jesus taught his disciples, asking for his kingdom to come and reign on this earth, but it's hard to miss that things are not as they should be. So … Continue reading Episode 107 – A Word on Lament
Episode 090 – Terence Lester
Terence Lester is the founder of Love Beyond Walls, a non-profit based in Atlanta serving people experiencing homelessness. At the beginning of the coronavirus spread early in 2020, the work Terence and his organization had been doing pivoted to meet the changing needs of the people they served. Since handwashing was high on the list … Continue reading Episode 090 – Terence Lester
Episode 085 – Bethany Dearborn Hiser
Bethany Dearborn Hiser is a social worker who knows a little about feeling burned out. She, like many people in helping professions, was so consumed caring for others she neglected to care for herself. Her wake up call came in a session with a client and that began a transforming journey. Bethany captured much of … Continue reading Episode 085 – Bethany Dearborn Hiser
Episode 077 – Lisa Sharon Harper
Lisa Sharon Harper is an author, speaker, activist, and founder of Freedom Road. She has written a beautiful book called The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right which was the basis of our conversation in this episode. We talk about the importance of relationship and narrative and having a "thick" understanding … Continue reading Episode 077 – Lisa Sharon Harper
Episode 070 – Holly Christine Hayes
Holly Christine Hayes is the founder and CEO of Sanctuary Project. The jewelry her company makes and sells is beautiful and so is its mission and Holly's story. It is all about redemption and rescue, healing and hope! Holly once lived a life of addiction where she suffered violence and was trafficked. Then, in the … Continue reading Episode 070 – Holly Christine Hayes
Episode 069 – Mae Elise Cannon
Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon is the Executive Director of Churches for Middle East Peace. Her most recent book Beyond Hashtag Activism: Comprehensive Justice in a Complicated Age is a must-read for anyone who wants to pursue justice, but is having a hard time figuring out where to start. In our conversation we touched on … Continue reading Episode 069 – Mae Elise Cannon
Episode 067 – Brenda Salter McNeil
Dr. Brenda Salter McNeil has been working in the space of biblical reconciliation for over three decades and the wisdom and grace she brings is invaluable! Thirty years into pursuing racial justice and speaking the truth, she is still entirely convinced of the bravery this job requires. With the heart of a mentor, she actively … Continue reading Episode 067 – Brenda Salter McNeil
Episode 065 – Drew G.I. Hart
Dr. Drew G.I. Hart is a theology professor at Messiah University and author of the new book Who Will Be a Witness? Igniting Activism for God's Justice, Love, and Deliverance, which was the basis for much of our discussion in this episode. Ultimately, if we are taking our discipleship of Jesus seriously, we have to … Continue reading Episode 065 – Drew G.I. Hart
Episode 049 – Sarah Jackson, Casa de Paz
Sarah Jackson is the founder of Casa de Paz and author of The House That Love Built: Why I Opened My Door to Immigrants and How We Found Hope Beyond a Broken System. Sarah wasn't looking to become an advocate in the complicated world of immigration in the U.S.; it just kind of happened to … Continue reading Episode 049 – Sarah Jackson, Casa de Paz