That Makes Total Sense!
That Makes Total Sense!
Episode 130 - David Swanson

David Swanson is back on the podcast! David is the pastor of New Community Covenant Church in Chicago, the author of Rediscipling the White Church, and regularly speaks and writes on matters of racial justice and reconciliation. The last time David and I recorded was in October of 2020 and as you know a lot has happened since then! While it’s good and helpful to talk about ideas that are more solidified, like those in his book, I asked David to come back and give us some real-time ecclesial and social commentary. What does he see happening in the evangelical church in the U.S. since we spoke and how can we, as members of the body, contribute in a kingdom-minded way? I can’t wait for you to hear this thoughtful and thought-provoking conversation!

Connect with David at, on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.

Mentioned in this episode:

Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True Solidarity by David Swanson

Episode 061 with David Swanson

The Blood of Emmett Till by Timothy B. Tyson

Can “White” People Be Saved: Reflections on Missions and Whiteness lecture by Willie Jennings at Fuller Theological Seminary

Letter From a Birmingham Jail by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

New Community Covenant Church

Taking America Back for God: Christian Nationalism in the United States by Andrew L. Whitehead and Samuel L. Perry

You might also enjoy:

Episode 043 with Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley of Baylor University

Episode 057 with Daniel Hill on White Lies

Episode 096 with Dr. Michelle Ami Reyes on multi-cultural Christianity

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