Robert Chao Romero is back! (In case you missed him the first time around, you'll wanna catch up on that one!) This time Robert and I talk about the new book just released with his co-author, Jeff Liou, Christianity and Critical Race Theory. As referenced in our conversation (like when Robert read a not-so-nice Twitter … Continue reading Episode 193 – Robert Chao Romero
Episode 184 – Drew Jackson
I am so stoked to welcome Drew Jackson back to the podcast! His first book, and this volume two are some of my favorite books of poetry. What Drew has done by putting the Gospel of Luke in conversation with his own context is theological art at its finest. The problem is, this kind of … Continue reading Episode 184 – Drew Jackson
Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter
This conversation with Jenny Booth Potter was so rich and full! Jenny's story is particular to her own experiences and circumstances and familiar to many of us at the same time, especially if we grew up inside white, American evangelicalism. She brings to light the reality that racism, as Beverly Tatum states, is a moving … Continue reading Episode 182 – Jenny Booth Potter
Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)
This episode originally aired on July 20, 2020, and trust me when I say it is just as timely and relevant today, in January of 2023, as it was then. Pastor and author Ashlee Eiland and her husband, Delwin, are both on staff at Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI where Delwin leads worship and … Continue reading Episode 179 – Ashlee Eiland (re-release!)
Episode 167 – Jim Wallis
The one and only Jim Wallis is on the podcast! Most recently Jim came on as the director of the Center on Faith + Justice at Georgetown University. He and I met over the summer when the Center hosted its inaugural summer academy and I was blessed enough to attend. For those who may not … Continue reading Episode 167 – Jim Wallis
Episode 165 – Jasmin Shupper
Jasmin Shupper is the founder and president of Greenline Housing Foundation. Educated in business and a licensed realtor, Jasmin has always been fascinated by and drawn to homes. She is aware though, that due to our country's intentional legislation and policies, people of color have consistently and systemically been denied the opportunity to participate in … Continue reading Episode 165 – Jasmin Shupper
Episode 152 – Phil Allen, Jr.
To say I am moved by this conversation and project by Phil Allen, Jr. would be an understatement. Phil Allen, Jr. is an author, speaker, filmmaker, PhD candidate, friend, and incredibly generous advocate. When, as an adult, he first heard the truth about his grandfather's tragic death that took place in 1953, he knew the … Continue reading Episode 152 – Phil Allen, Jr.
Episode 149 – Andre Henry
I always love it when I get to interview someone associated with Fuller Seminary and this conversation with Andre Henry is definitely no exception! Andre is a musician, artist, activist, and author of All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep. We cover a lot of ground in this episode, but some of the highlights for … Continue reading Episode 149 – Andre Henry
Episode 143 – J.W. Buck
J.W. (Josh) Buck is the Executive Director and one of the founders of Pax, a Christian organization designed to inspire and equip the next generation through slow, beautiful, Jesus-centered content created by people of color. While his first book is available for pre-order now (!), in this interview, we focused on his dissertation work on the … Continue reading Episode 143 – J.W. Buck
Episode 142 – Idelette McVicker
Idelette McVicker is a native of South Africa, currently living in Canada with her family, and ministering to Christians like me (in America and globally) on how to fight against white supremacy in our societies. She is the author of Recovering Racists, the founder of She Loves Media Society, and the Dangerous Women community. In … Continue reading Episode 142 – Idelette McVicker
Episode 141 – Stephen Mattson
For the past couple of months, I have been reading my way through an incredible book in my morning prayer time, On Love & Mercy: A Social Justice Devotional. In this beautiful work, Stephen Mattson takes the time to define social justice for Christians and touches on dozens of areas where our attention is needed. … Continue reading Episode 141 – Stephen Mattson
Episode 138 – Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley
On March 29, 2022, President Biden signed into law the "Emmett Till Antilynching Act." While this is historic, it is also over 100 years and 200 failed votes in the making. There are mixed emotions following the bill's unanimous passing in the Senate and in light of the moment, I'm taking this opportunity to re-air … Continue reading Episode 138 – Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley
Episode 093 – Osheta Moore
Osheta Moore is a pastor and peacemaker bent on demolishing the hold white supremacy has had on God's children. Her brand new book Dear White Peacemakers: Dismantling Racism With Grit and Grace is the book I would hand to so many of my White friends contemplating how they can move forward in their journeys of … Continue reading Episode 093 – Osheta Moore
Episode 076 – Jemar Tisby
Jemar Tisby, the New York Times bestselling author of The Color of Compromise, is back on the podcast with an incredible conversation about his new book, How To Fight Racism: Courageous Christianity and the Journey Toward Racial Justice. We recorded this episode on January 12, 2021, less than one week after the insurrection at the … Continue reading Episode 076 – Jemar Tisby
Episode 065 – Drew G.I. Hart
Dr. Drew G.I. Hart is a theology professor at Messiah University and author of the new book Who Will Be a Witness? Igniting Activism for God's Justice, Love, and Deliverance, which was the basis for much of our discussion in this episode. Ultimately, if we are taking our discipleship of Jesus seriously, we have to … Continue reading Episode 065 – Drew G.I. Hart
Episode 061 – David Swanson
David Swanson is the pastor of a multiracial congregation in Chicago and author of Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True Solidarity. In a world where diversity is valued and even sought after, David recognizes it is not always the answer. Racial injustice cannot be addressed by an emphasis of diversity alone; true … Continue reading Episode 061 – David Swanson
Episode 059 – Jemar Tisby
Jemar Tisby is the New York Times best-selling author of The Color of Compromse: The Truth About the American Church's Complicity in Racism. He is also the president and co-founder of The Witness - A Black Christian Collective. Jemar talked about the current civil rights movement, what Christians can do to educate themselves and gave … Continue reading Episode 059 – Jemar Tisby
Episode 057 – Daniel Hill
Pastor Daniel Hill joined me to talk about his new book White Lies and it was powerful! White supremacy as an ideology has played an unfortunate role in the Church in America and we as believers have allowed it to continue on our watch for far too long. True, not everyone is intentionally promoting white … Continue reading Episode 057 – Daniel Hill
Episode 053 – Cara Meredith, Author, The Color of Life
Cara Meredith is an author, speaker, and conversationalist. She's also a wife, mother, and follower of Jesus. But how I encountered her most meaningfully is as a student. Her spiritual memoir, The Color of Life: A Journey Toward Love and Racial Justice tells the story of how Cara met and fell in love with her … Continue reading Episode 053 – Cara Meredith, Author, The Color of Life
Episode 050 – Mark Charles, Presidential Candidate and Author
Mark Charles is a speaker, author, advocate, and an independent candidate for President in the upcoming 2020 election. His new book, co-authored with Soong-Chan Rah is Unsettling Truths: The Ongoing Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery. To me, Mark is a conversation starter. His ideas bring to the forefront truths about our country and … Continue reading Episode 050 – Mark Charles, Presidential Candidate and Author
Episode 046 – Adam & Randi Blair, The Selah Project
Adam and Randi Blair are the married couple behind the diversity consulting firm, The Selah Project. Their current work in helping churches create more diverse communities is birthed from their experience in being an interracial couple in ministry. I love what they say about the training they provide to leaders and congregations - that it … Continue reading Episode 046 – Adam & Randi Blair, The Selah Project
Episode 044 – Let’s Talk About Race
Here on the podcast, we talk about faith, finance, and everyday life. You have surely noticed that recently in our country, and really across the world, eyes have turned to racial injustice in America. I have not shied away from talking about race on the podcast because this topic definitely fits into the original premise. … Continue reading Episode 044 – Let’s Talk About Race
Episode 043 – Malcolm Foley, Department of Religion at Baylor University
The soon to be Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley was on the podcast and I can honestly say it was one of my favorite conversations to date! Malcolm is a PhD candidate at Baylor University and his dissertation research asks the question, how Black Protestants affirmed their own dignity in the late 19th and early 20th … Continue reading Episode 043 – Malcolm Foley, Department of Religion at Baylor University
Repenting for Racism
By Alexis Busetti I feel completely unprepared to write about this topic. In fact, this is the second draft of this article because I completely trashed the first one (that I spent days re-working and then published only to un-publish again). But because it’s important, I’m going to try again. I want to talk about … Continue reading Repenting for Racism